Tiny Cracks in the Foundation

by TMS 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • TMS
    TMS

    Two unsettling incidents are lodged in my memory. They are unrelated, except in the general sense that they opened tiny fissures in the foundation of my belief system.

    Returning from the summer assembly in Kansas City, Missouri in 1969, I was approached by Tom Moore, a plain-speaking circuit overseer . He had heard that my wife and I had filled out Gilead applications at the assembly and wanted a word with me. Did I know that missionaries sent to foreign assignments generally needed to be vaccinated to get a passport and that some of the required vaccinations contained blood components? He correctly assessed me as someone who did not compromise. In those days, I would point out a two cent undercharge to a store clerk, so aware was I of not displeasing my heavenly Father. My wife and I visited about this potential quandary, both being disturbed about it, but, as things turned out, never crossed that proverbial bridge.

    Some years later, in the fall of 1980, I was sitting with the body of elders, listening to Fred Lanier, a kindly circuit overseer, then about retirement age. The elder’s meeting was just completed, but Fred was not making a move from his chair. Typically, CO’s make a hasty exit after this meeting because they have typing to do, recommendations or deletions to type out, the congregation report, etc. Fred Lanier obviously had more he wanted to say out of the context of the Society’s outline for the meeting. He started to throw out some details concerning the events at Brooklyn in ‘80, mentioning R. Franz and Dunlop. He warned repeatedly about “independent thinking”. He spoke of discussions at Bethel concerning the great crowd being a secondary heavenly class as opposed to an earthly class. Noting the consternation on my face, Fred, as an aside to me, stated: “Well, of course, on that level, discussions like that take place. But that is all kept in confidence.” I recall driving home from that meeting with the phrase “on that level” ringing in my ears. THEY could speculate, but WE could not.

    These are two tiny episodes in my life that I suppressed without further thought for many, many years. In almost any other aspect of my life, ignoring details is uncharacteristic. I agonize over which 13.5 ounce can of coffee is the best deal, but in making life’s most important choices, I chose to ignore many obvious warning signs.

    TMS

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed

    Not feel alone, TMS. Many, if not all, of us ignored many warning signs for some time. That is, until they, or another sign, smacked us right dab between the eyes.

    To be honest, I had some small doubts when I was baptized, but wrote them off as my insecurity and many years of being taught the JWs were basically rotten. The very first assembly I attended was when they handed out the Proclaimers book, of course, only to elders and others of long standing. How, I asked myself, was that dessiminating spiritual food? Still, I stuck it out.

    Pretty much the final straw, for me, was shortly after I was remarried, to a dub woman with 3 small kids. It's not uncommon for step families to have trouble adjusting and we had our share. I was approached by an elder one Sunday after meeting as he wished to express his concern over how I was treating the kids because they no longer ran around and played on the stage and inside the Kingdum Hell anymore. To say I was shocked at that is an understatement. I looked at him in bewilderment as I stated that I thought the Watchtower said it was improper to allow ones children to remain in the hall to play after meetings. He agreed and I thought that was the end of that.

    A few months later, since I was getting nowhere trying to communicate with the kids or get them to comminucate, I again turned to another elder and asked if he would have a talk with the kids and see if he could get them to open up and give me some feedback so I kew what was in their minds and could adjust the household accordingly. During their meeting, I stayed outside so as to give the kids full freedom to open up, the step-son, 9 at the time, took over the meeting, as I was later told. What things he whispered in the elders ears, I will never know as the elder refused to tell me and I ended up getting an ass chewing outside the kingdum hell for about 50 minutes, being accused of being militaristic, over bearing, cruel, you name it. When I mentioned that the boy had a problem in his personal integrity, as attested to by his school teachers, I was told, by the same elder, that I was a liar.

    After that, even when I went inactive over this, everytime I would turn to an elder or discuss anything from the family, all this "confidential" stuff was always brought up to me. In plain English, they handed the headship of the house over to a 9 year old boy and left me with all the bills.

    I went inactive, as stated above, but the crap didn't stop, even having gone so far as to have two elders first visit to my house appear as a set up to DF me. The same kid had a small mark about half the size of my thumb, on his shoulder and the elders took him and actually took pictures of this mark. The very next day, he tried to involve CPS in it, but the case worker sent him back to class as the mark had disappeared. This didn't stop the elders. They called and set up a meeting for the next Saturday to dicuss my "abusing" the kids. I was laready tried and convicted. The only thing stopping an immediate DFing was for them have actual "evidence." That is what the Saturday meeting was for.

    The first thing they did was to wait almost 10 minutes until I got into the room to turn to the wife and ask her, in my presence, mind you, if it were okay to open with a prayer. They deliberately set out to provoke a confrontation with me. And, I obliged. The entire meeting was accusation after accusation until I had had enough and kicked them out, very verbily. he next week, I received the certified letter informing me of the Judicial Hearing as I was "prone to wrath."

    I got out the bound volumes and elders manual and listed three pages of why, according to their own literature, they were acting improprly and refused to attend their little meeting. The matter was dropped util a few months later when the rumor mill got started again by my own sister-in-law.

    With that, I wrote a letter of Disassociation, once again including quotes from the elders manual, NWT, Watchttower, you name it. I even included a copy of a letter from CPS stating they found no abuse in the home and copies of current Washington State law. The only thing they paid attention to was the line where I said I could no longer allow myself to identified as a JW. It was announced immediately!

    Inadvertently, I forgot to sign the letter. The again sent me a cetified letter requsting the signature. Since they had already announced it, I figured why bother? Two weeks later, two elders, ioncluding the one I studied with and who hadn't stopped to see me in over 5 years, came by asking for the signature, saying the letter wasn't legal without it. When I countered with, "it was legal enough to already announce publicly," they said, "the Faithful and Discreet slave requires your signature on the letter." Since they woke me up from a nap, I was feeling ornery and countered, "if he really wants it, have him come and get it!" With that, they stomped, literally, out the door and I haven't seen hide nor hair of them since.

    So, to me, they are the most unloving group of people I have ever met. Jesus said you would kow the true disciples of Christ by their love and brother, it ain't the dubs.

    If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

  • Guest 77
    Guest 77

    DR, the very fact they read your letter in public unsigned says it all.

    Guest 77

  • Frenchy
    Frenchy

    There were lots of little things that bothered me...for a long, long time. Then there were big things that bothered me also. At first I tried discussing this with fellow witnesses. It either scared them or made them angry. This was yet another problem.

    I know that no person is perfect, no group of people is perfect. The sin is not in making the mistake...the sin is in not owning up to it. --I am constantly reminded of the Pharisees in this connection.

  • worf
    worf

    I also did not pay enough attention to warning signs.

    Around 1995, there was a wt article that really ticked me off and I found myself saying "how could they have such a cold hard attitude toward people who had suffered because of listening to them?"
    This article had to do with alternative military service.The article actually gave a change in how we should view it.It was now allowed.But it also said something to the effect that Christians should not feel bad that they had "followed their conscience" in this matter and had suffered for it,(ie jail time etc.), even though now there was a change in view on the particular matter that they suffered for.

    In other words; Just because we are now giving you "new light", don't feel bad that you suffered under the "old light".

    This was a definite warning sign. I wish I had seen the full significance of it. I could have saved myself a few more years.

    DakotaRed: What a story! These are the types of things the media needs to know about. I don't know how you restrained yourself from beating them down.

    worf(warrior class)

  • julien
    julien

    huhuhuh huhuh huh huh huh heh huh huhuh heh huh huh hehehe huhhuh.
    "Crack." huhuh huh huh heheh huh huhuh

  • Francois
    Francois

    I have known Fred Lanier since approximately 1955, when he weighed about 145 pounds. The kingdom hall was on Duffy Street in Savannah, GA. It was an ex-church of some kind. You'da thought they wouldn't use it - demons and all.

    I know that Fred had some pretty settled ideas on things he knew absolutely nothing about. And would base his opinions in judicial meetings on these erroneous ideas.

    "At that level" huh? I'll bet he never even realized what he was saying, and how elitist and wrong it was.

    But you're right, Fred is kindly. Not like some of the others, like C.B., a real "sheep skinner."

    Francois

  • AMNESIAN
    AMNESIAN

    Worf:

    Around 1995, there was a wt article that really ticked me off and I found myself saying "how could they have such a cold hard attitude toward people who had suffered because of listening to them?"

    This article had to do with alternative military service.The article actually gave a change in how we should view it.It was now allowed.But it also said something to the effect that Christians should not feel bad that they had "followed their conscience" in this matter and had suffered for it,(ie jail time etc.), even though now there was a change in view on the particular matter that they suffered for.

    I recall like it was yesterday reading ---stupefied!---this article for the first time. After a number of years of battling everything from nagging doubts about some WT policies/teachings/"recommendations" to major disagreement with various others (and, thus, in the process, virtually crippling myself performing the mental gymnastics required to continue believing in the overall integrity and Christianity of the organization!), I fairly sputtered incoherently as I read aloud to my husband the relevant paragraphs from this article.

    To be exact, after presenting the "new light" on alternative military service, the article asked the reader, in its annoyingly routine and overdone style, whether those who'd suffered in the past should regret having done so in view of this "enlightened" understanding (obviously attempting to buffer themselves against the indignation they brilliantly anticipated on the part of those who'd now conclude they'd suffered needlessly). The WT's incredible answer to its own rhetorical question??? Paraphrasing: That no (quelle surprise!), there should be no regret for proving one's loyalty to Jehovah by having followed his Bible-trained conscience [in having made the decision to serve a prison term rather than accept alternative service!].

    I was thunderstruck. For various reasons, the "generation" change, the change in whether JW's modern-day preaching constitutes a so-called "separating work," and what constitutes "the disgusting thing standing in the holy place" had much less negative effect on me than the high-handed, disingenuous arguments presented in this article. Looking back, it was the first time I admitted to myself what I'd already begun reluctantly to suspect---that besides many of the Society's teachings being in serious error, that it---i.e., its leadership--- is dishonest, arrogant and, finally and most appallingly, rather than Christ-like, brazen in its contempt for and mocking in its abuse of trusting followers for whose consumption they blithely manipulate the scriptures, their own history, and other information. And what they don't manipulate, they simply make up, for the apparent sport of it. (Unlike many here, I don't for one second think that the gb believes the "truths" they traffic; I am convinced they get off on witnessing just how much control they have over a flock who unquestioningly accepts all the absurdities they pass off as "spiritual food.")

    Anyway, it was also for me at this point that what had been tiny cracks began to rupture into Grand Canyon-sized craters of non-belief, non-acceptance.

    This was a definite warning sign. I wish I had seen the full significance of it. I could have saved myself a few more years.
    I fully recognized the significance of what this article revealed about the Society's leadership but, despite the sense of betrayal I felt along with other doubts and misgivings, my own peace and confirmation of heart and mind required additional proof. The ensuing years, though wasted in terms of additional years spent serving a corrupt and abusive religious organization, assailed me with irrefutable evidence of the only kind that would suffice to awaken a long-time die-hard JW of the tenaciously faithful sort I had been to the sobering, life/belief-shattering reality that the WTS is a fraud, not being used as God's anything, and that it was not only okay, but, in fact, imperative that I separate from it.

    -AMNESIAN

  • TMS
    TMS
    I know that no person is perfect, no group of people is perfect. The sin is not in making the mistake...the sin is in not owning up to it. --I am constantly reminded of the Pharisees in this connection.

    Amen, Frenchy!

    For example, if the GB had come out in '76 and said: "Brothers, we got carried away with what we thought was possibly significant chronology. It is with great sadness we have learned that some have made detrimental financial, health and career decisions based on our misleading direction. We humbly before Jehovah beg forgiveness for any harm we have caused."

    Many of us would have respected such a pronouncement.

    Of course, many such opportunities for humility have been missed and many of the best men and women have eventually moved on with their lives.

    TMS

  • worf
    worf

    AMNESIAN,
    Well said. I agree with everything you wrote. And I also know that the GB does not believe their own writings. They know their teachings are false but from the days of Rutherford its all about money and control of peoples lives and people's money.Its obvious. God never used them, he's not using them now and he never will. And they are criminals because they know all of this. They are the biggest fraud of the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries.

    worf

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