Can you be DFd if you were never really baptised?

by Slidin Fast 14 Replies latest jw experiences

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  Phizzy

  The WT will probably claim that it is not a legal contract. But if so, how come they seek to dissolve their side of it at least,

  by what they call a Judicial procedure ? As usual , they want it both ways.

  I too was dunked, pre-teen, a little over 50 years ago, and yet they will hold me to that, because I accepted responsibilities like, M.S later in life.

  I wonder how the Columbia Record Club would get on trying to enforce 3rdgen's original contract because she bought a Columbia album when she became adult ?
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  BluesBrother

  Like others, I jumped in the water pre teen...There were no pre baptims q's you just turned up with a towell and, in my case, a borrowed costume.

  Too young to vote, drive or open a credit a/c but old enough to give your life away to the only Relligion you had ever known.

  Reminds me of a child from a rough family that had studied alone with the cong., a few years later. This girl too had "taken the plunge" inadvisably and then drifted away. After that, when she was a young woman somebody contacted her and was recounting that she was now living "in sin". The elder's respnse? not how to help her but "Was she ever disfellowshipped ?"
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  adamah

  Blues Brother said-

  Reminds me of a child from a rough family that had studied alone with the cong., a few years later. This girl too had "taken the plunge" inadvisably and then drifted away. After that, when she was a young woman somebody contacted her and was recounting that she was now living "in sin". The elder's respnse? not how to help her but "Was she ever disfellowshipped ?"

  Yes, since they have to keep the congregation clean! Oh, wait: "she had drifted away"?

  Well, they can't play it too safe here: she might wake up one morning and decide to go out in field service on her own, and what if some householder called the KH and complained about her activity and it turned out she HADN'T been DFed? Imagine the egg on their faces, and the disrespect and reproach that it might bring upon Jehovah's organization!

  Meanwhile Brother Pedophile continues his "hobby", since we cannot be too presumptious about THAT (the "two witness" rule), and THAT'S not going to bring any reproach upon Jehovah's name, no sireee!

  Well all know why: JW elders are generally Walter Mitty types who get off on their faux monkey trials and the power of deciding who's going to get shunned: it's a power trip and ego-gratification for uneducated men, pure and simple, and even more absurd than the men girl cliques of High School (at least insecure teen girls have an excuse for being catty: they're uncomfortable in their own skin, and seek to put others down).
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  AudeSapere

  (marking)
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  sir82

  I suspect you already know the answers, but just to be sure....

  if I said that my baptism was not valid would that hold water?

  no.

  Does my tacit acceptance of appointments, removals, JCs and the like override the original lack of proof?

  yes.

  Could I just claim I never had a valid baptism, I was never a real Dub, walk away without any repercussions?

  no.