Waiting, you sound like you have read some of the same books I have as well as having been raised in the same area. Did you ever read any of Pat Conroy's books? The kids in one of his books were always being shocked by the teacher and using the same expression. "Oh GAWD Mr....." I think it was "The Water is Wide" or something like that. He is the guy that wrote Prince of Tides too. I like the picture too, Eyes, and share the sentiments expressed by Waiting. You know, black men were given sufferage before either black or white women, which is amazing to me. My mother, my wife, my daughter, I just don't understand how any man could ever discriminate against women having had these relationships. Much less act as though they weren't as smart or capable, anyway, ample proof on this board to the contrary. Seven, Redhorsewoman, Waiting, Mommy, ladies of Discussion all of you are the hmmmm, almost said heavyweights!!! All of you are the some of the best Talent on the board.