I had considered learning Spanish several times, in order to help where the sisters were greater. But when I learned that "mother" was trying hard to stop the Spanish congregations from having all those fun gatherings, dances, and parties, and wanted the Latinas to dress modestly, I changed my mind.
The truth about Hispanic JWs in the United States
by Hecce 58 Replies latest jw experiences
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Hecce
Something very sad is that there has been a high incidence of sexual abuse of children. The brothers in the Spanish were more prone to listen to the elders advice and keep things "quiet'; that together with the fact many offenders have fled to other countries has resulted in many victims without any recourse or needed help.
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Hecce
Another current item:
The historical Cos were mostly retired on 9/1/2012, for many in the Spanish Congregations this is a bitter pill. Many of those brothers were like fatherly figures for the flock; it is going to be very difficult to accept the newcomers with the same respect and affection that they had for the others.
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Hecce
Something that seems dishonest is the treatment of the undocumented brothers.
While they are learning the “truth” there is no mention about their legal status.
They get to be new publishers and the matter never comes out.
When the baptismal questions are asked they brush over the matter of obeying “Caesar” without any further discussion.
Once that they are in they learn that they have a stigma over them and they won’t be allowed to have any privileges until their situation changes.
In the meantime their field service, contributions, labor and everything else that they are doing is welcomed and praised.
It seems hypocritical to allow them in without any warning about what is going to be coming to them.
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wearewatchingyouman
The thing about the growth of the Spanish congregations in the US is it's tied to undocumented immigrants. I actually know a local elder(well, used to be) who owns a roofing business in town. He's in the Spanish congregation. Damn near all his employees were undocumented JW workers. A couple of his jobsites were raided by the feds a couple years back. He was arrested for tax evasion and knowingly employeeing undocumented workers. He was disfellowshipped for "not obeying the law of the land". Kind of funny since all his employees were local witnesses and everyone knew he paid them under the table. He was even praised, before he was arrested, around here for putting so many brothers to work. Ah, the politics. Got to love it. He's been reinstated, but his business is much smaller these days due to having to do everything "by the book".
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Hecce
The situation in the last comment is not an anomaly but the norm. In situations like this, everyone around this person knew what he was doing but opted to look the other way. Only the scandal forced their hands to act.
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XstuckX
I used to manage a company for an elder who hired many of the Hispanics from a nearby Spanish cong. One of them was an elder who says he was a 'professor' in his home country but could barely spell his own name. He married a white sister who visited his country and came back with her to live with her parents. The Hispanic sisters treated him like a god, bringing him food every day, acting very submissive. He tried to push his weight around with me and I told him his position in the cong meant nothing to me at the jobsite. He was very lazy and one day when I'd had enough of it I told him to get to work.....the sisters are putting you to shame. He told me I was not his boss. I told him that today would be his last day on this job. I told my boss (the elder) that if he came back to work there would be probems. He didn't come back.
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ILoveTTATT
Wow...
This is good... MARKED
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James Jackson
It has been explained to me that because English is the official language of the U.S., they go first such on signage and such others things.
If we were in Mexico, the English would come behind the Spanish. Although on things such as congregation meetings, goes on a rotation, so that everyone is equal.
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Hecce
Yes that is the general attitude, they belong in the back of the bus.
Now in matters like labor, preaching, contributions and others, then they go at front.