I'm just making a query into the red coloured book that had peoples faces stamped into the hard front cover. The "you can live forever in paradise on earth" book. This is so long ago so please forgive me if I get few things wrong. I remember been shown two editions of this book some years ago. In the first edition there is a picture of an angel, and he has his hand drawn as a claw. In the 2nd edition the claw has been removed and replaced with a hand. I remember been told the reason for this change was because the artist in the first edition was going apostate / demonized, and as a parting blow to the society had drawn a claw. This was latter picked up on so hence the latter edition has the angel with a hand. Dose anyone know anything about this or can elobaborate. Thanks.
Question about the "you can live forever in paradise on earth" book
by joe134cd 13 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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insearchoftruth4
Hey Joe.
There was whole lot of subliminal crap they was putting out in the early eighties. Some JWs were upset (understandably). But when they complained too much, WTS DF'ed them. BASTURDS...I should of woke up back then.
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joe134cd
If you have two copies of that book there is clearly a claw and in the 2nd there is a hand. I just want the info on it.
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Jeffro
By far the majority of the supposed 'subliminal' images allegedly appearing in JW literature are well within the realms of pareidolia. That is, there isn't really anything special about the image, and the thing people are supposedly 'meant' to see generally isn't at all 'apparent' until 'revealed' by a big red arrow, outline or box along with a detailed description of what the person is 'meant to see', sometimes with instructions to rotate or fold the image to 'reveal' the 'subliminal' image.
In other cases, an image might be deliberately modified by an artist who is 'rebellious' or simply bored. There is no evidence at all that any artist (or any other person) has ever done anything because they were 'demonised'.
In this particular instance, I think the image you're referring to was actually in Revelation—Its Grand Climax at Hand and not You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth. The image is sometimes touted by over-excited propagandists as a 'lobster claw', but the discoloured hand quite definitely has four visible fingers and does not remotely resemble any part of a lobster. The most likely scenario in this case is that the artist was simply having some fun, though it is not impossible that there was subsequent discoloration of that part of the image between the original drawing and production of the printing plates.
Additionally, 'subliminal' images cannot have any effect on someone who is not already familiar with what the alleged 'subliminal image' is 'meant' to convey. For example, if an image surreptitiously contains some symbol that was worshiped by a tribe of extinct midgets, the 'hidden' image has precisely zero effect ('subliminal' or otherwise) on a reader not familiar with the symbolism (and no supernatural effect on someone who is familar with the symbol).
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transhuman68
LOL, you are mixed up, joe134cd. The picture of the hand is on page 52 of the 1988 Revelation Climax book. There were two editions- 1988 & 2006, I think. ... don't quote me on this though, lol.
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Tiktaalik
The image I remember from the first "Red" book was of the way too sexy lady with the big bedroom eyes, voluptuous hair, wearing sexy lingerie, and ready to get it on.
They changed this image in the second edition to a much more straitened and modest image, with the lady wrapped up in granny's dressing gown.
Or something like that. It's been a while.
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Heartofaboy
Yes I remember her seductive pose before her husband as he arrived home from work, the authors obviously trying to portray the subservient role expected of a christian wife.
Also beside her a small framed picture of a rams head.................all just a bit odd from men supposedly guided by god's holy spirit don't you think?
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nicolaou
The Watchtower. Promoting the 'original lie' for over a 130 years!
https://twitter.com/undubbed/status/415501204211240960/photo/1
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Barrold Bonds
i love these weirdos that make threads about subliminal images.
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joe134cd
The one with the angels hand drawn as a claw was in the you can live forever book. I remember having this pointed out to me well before the revelation book was ever published. I'm just kicking myself that I didn't keep those two different editions. This claw was that I saw was more deliberate, there was nothing subliminal about it. It was obvious.
