Mistakes made when dialoguing with Atheists

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  • gumby
    gumby

    I thought this was a GOOD read! http://www.carm.net/atheism.htm

    Mistake Christians make when dialoguing
    with Atheists

    Most Christians mean well when they defend their faith. But, too often, many make fundamental errors when dialoguing with atheists. We need to make as few errors as possible, not simple to win an argument, but to help the atheist come to a saving relationship with the Lord Jesus.
    Following are common mistakes made by theists when dialoguing with atheists.

    Asking an atheist to prove there is no God
    Sometimes Christians will attempt to dismantle an atheist argument by demanding that the atheist prove there is no God. Well, to be fair, an atheist can no more prove there is no God than he can prove that there isn't an ice-cream factory on Jupiter. The problem does not lie with the atheist, but with the theist who demands such an impossible and illogical request. Generally, you do not try to prove a negative. If I asked you to prove there wasn't an ice-cream factory on Jupiter, could you do it? Of course not. It isn't a fair request. In fact, it isn't even a good request. Let's think about this idea of proving there is no God.
    First of all, how could an atheist prove there is no God? Can he know all things to know there is no God? Well, of course not. If he knew all things, he'd be God. Can he answer every bit of evidence raised in support of theism? Again no. He is not omniscient. There is simply too much information in the world for one person to know.
    Again, in argumentation you don't try to prove a negative. It’s the same thing as making something up and then asking a person to prove it doesn't exist -- like an ice-cream factory on Jupiter.

    Labeling Atheists
    Some Christians have labeled atheists as evil, stupid, devil-worshippers, or morally void. Though there may be some atheists who fit these categories (as would many in the general population), atheists are not evil, stupid, devil-worshipping, degenerates with no morals. Many of them are fine citizens, honest, caring, loving, and patient. For a Christian, or anyone, to make a blanket statement about atheists in a derogatory manner is wrong. It is the same thing atheists sometimes do when they accuse Christians of being irrational, psychotic, or stupid. Such accusations have no place on either side of the argument of truth.
    Generally, atheists are not stupid. Many of them have thought through their position over a long period of time. Some were raised in religious homes, have seen what religion has to offer, and have rejected it. Of course, I think that atheists have drawn incorrect conclusions about God, but it doesn't mean they are dumb. Some atheists have presented very cogent arguments against the existence of God -- which need to be addressed -- and rest their eternity on their arguments.
    So, just because someone believes in God and encounters someone who doesn't, that does not mean that either side is stupid. Labeling and name-calling have no place in the discussion.

    Ignoring Atheists' Questions
    If you were standing on a railroad track and a train was heading your way, closing your eyes and ignoring the locomotive will not make it go away. If an atheist asks a question and you ignore it repeatedly, it would be fair for him to conclude you were incapable of answering the objection. Of course, this does not mean you have to always answer everything because dialogue flows both ways. But, it is important that you face issues. If you don't have an answer, admit it. That's okay. It doesn't mean you are wrong. It means you don't have an answer. Go study and get an answer and get back to him.

    Stating that Atheism is a religion
    Atheists will repeatedly tell you that they are not in a religion. A religion almost always is defined to include belief in a deity of some sort. Atheism is non-belief in a deity. It isn't necessarily a "belief that there is no God," but is "not believing either way."
    To label an atheist as a religious person is to put up a roadblock to any effective communication. It would be like someone saying to a Christian, "You believe in a mean, tyrannical being who likes to torture people." The Christian would simply role his eyes and think that the person doesn't know what he's talking about. So, how much effective conversation could there be in either instance? Not much.

    Stating unsupportable facts
    No one has all documentation for everything they say. It is not reasonable to require proof from an atheist on everything said. Nevertheless, if you are going to state a fact or two, it is good to have the documentation at the tip of your tongue -- at least occasionally. It adds an air of credibility to your argument. Of course, you don't have to document everything, but if you have some illustrious fact to use, try and have it documented.

    Never admitting when you are wrong
    Pride is a harmful thing. It caused the fall. It ruins marriages. It leads to anger and self-righteousness. It has no place in the Christian's life. Never admitting you are wrong is being prideful. If an atheist, or anyone, proves you wrong in something, be kind and courteous. Admit you made a mistake and go on. Everyone makes mistakes, even atheists. There is nothing wrong with admitting an error. It no more proves you are wrong about Christianity than being wrong about the color of a boat means boats don't exist. But, if you never admit when you are wrong, you will not be able to convince anyone in a discussion of your position. You will simply loose the respect of the one with whom you are debating.

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  • gumby
    gumby

    Hello?

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    That is interesting....they are telling their troops to do rational, smart things. Unlike the dubs....

    It won't change my position, however, at least they are trying to see the other point of view. That at least is something.

  • bboyneko
    bboyneko

    puff made a good point. That article treated its readers with respect and asked that they treat athiests with respect. Very different than JW thinking and writing and much much beter.

  • 4christ
    4christ

    Gumby-great article, thank you for posting it. :)

    Peace to all-L

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    I enjoyed reading this article....thanks for the post.

  • gumby
    gumby

    Thanks all for sharing.

    I wish more on the board could read this.

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi Gumby, I read it! It was interesting and very agreeable. I especially liked that you cannot ask an atheist to prove the unproveable. Carl Sagan said "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." The burden is on the one making the claim that there IS a god.

    Cheerio!
    Pat

  • patio34
    patio34

    By the way, do you have the link to the site?

  • gumby
    gumby

    Patio.. http://www.carm.net/atheism.htm

    Thanks for reading.

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