From Captives of a Concept: Gods Prophet, Hypocrisy and Propaganda used to control. (page 2)

Frazzled UBM

I think the recent changes to the concept of how the WBTS was appointed as the F&DS to focus on 1919 rather than the period between 1914 and 1919 to essentially remove Charles Haze Russell from the succession was designed to dilute the influence of Russell to deflect criticisms that he was a nutter with a fascination for pyramids, a point that is made well in Don's book. I think Don points out that if Russell was a JW today he would be df'd for all the beliefs he had that are contrary to current doctrine.

galaxie

Bravo Jon, to type so much info on your phone shows how much you want to get your message/points across. I am glad that you have seen through these hypocritical charlatans. All the best to you..

Phizzy

The attempt to distance themselves from the Pyramidology nonsense fails if you are aware of what they published since 1919.

In "The Golden Age" (Later "Awake") in 1924 Rutherford reprints the nonsense , along with an earlier than 1914 date for the "Time of the End" or "last Days" etc

So, the newly apponted FDS is serving up "old light" in1924 !! and confirming their allegience to the twaddle Russell produced.

(See Golden Age Dec 31st 1924)

Vidiot

sir82 - "It seems that no one in the writing department has an attention span of longer than 30 seconds. They appear to be literally incapable of reasoning for longer than that, to determine the implications of their doctrines."

That's because for some, reasoning for longer than 30 seconds and determining the implications of their doctrines is, arguably, the beginning of the end.

OnTheWayOut

Inspired:

of extraordinary quality, as if arising from some external creative impulse.

Of such surpassing brilliance or excellence as to suggest divine inspiration.

Inspiration: An agency, such as a person or work of art, that moves the intellect or emotions or prompts action or invention. Divine guidance or influence exerted directly on the mind and soul of humankind. Calling themselves "spirit-directed" is just a re-wording of "inspired." They suggest divine guidance/influence but try to say it doesn't (necessarily) go directly to the minds and souls of the governing body. So they want all the benefit of the doubt that what they say is "from Jehovah" but they want to leave room for saying that what they say is just their best guess of what Jehovah is trying to tell them.

Jon Preston

On the way out: i looked this up before i presented them the 1975 issue and they couldnt answer it...

Jon Preston

Last part on this thread but more to come--From Captives of a concept:

O NE of the things that keeps Jehovah’s Witnesses con- vinced that the Watchtower Society is God’s organiza- tion is the fact that no matter where they live on earth they all believe the same. But the question is, Why do they have their “unity of belief”? They will answer this question the same way the July 15, 1996 Watchtower answers it...

But this too is just an illusion. The real reason why they all “speak in agreement” can be seen by looking at their teachings that have changed, such as those mentioned in Chapter 3. What Witnesses don’t notice is that they have always had this same unity of belief even when the Soci- ety’s teachings have not been based on the Bible. 142 This means that there must be another fundamental reason why they all believe the same.

One of the times this reason showed up was in a court case in Scotland in 1954. Although this example has to do with just one of their former teachings, the principle that came out of that trial applies to all their teachings whether they have ever changed or not.

The Walsh Court Case

During that trial former Vice President Hayden Coving- ton 143 was being questioned about the Society’s former

Since our beliefs are based on God’s Word, all of us speak in agreement.

teaching that Jesus had returned in 1874 to begin his Sec- ond Coming. Note carefully the reason he gave as to why Jehovah’s Witnesses had unity of belief about that teaching even though it was not true and therefore had not been based on the Bible...

Q: It was promulgated as a matter which must [have been] believed by all members of Jehovah’s Witnesses that the Lord’s Second Com- ing took place in 1874...? A: It was a false statement or an erroneous statement in fulfillment of a prophecy that was false or erroneous.

Q: And that had to be believed by the whole of Jehovah’s Witnesses? A: Yes, because you must understand we must have unity ... Q: Back to the point now. A false prophecy was promulgated? A: I agree to that. 144

Q: It had to be accepted by Jehovah’s Witnesses? A: That is correct. Q: If a member of Jehovah’s Witnesses took the view himself that that prophecy was wrong and said so, he would be disfellowshipped? A: Yes ... Our purpose is to have unity. Q: Unity at all costs? A: Unity at all costs... Q: A unity based upon an enforced acceptance of false prophecy? A: That is conceded to be true . 145

There was no suggestion that their unity of belief on this subject was because it was based on the Bible. Covington knew that if it was the Society would still be teaching it in 1954 just as they would still be teaching it today. The rea- son he ultimately had to concede was that their unity of be- lief was “based on enforced acceptance.” Witnesses were forced to either (1) accept that admitted “false prophecy” so the Society could maintain its “unity at all costs” or else (2) be disfellowshipped so the Society could maintain it.

In order to see that this is still the reality today, the fol- lowing example will deal with their more recent former teaching that the generation of 1914 would not pass away before the “new world” will be here.

So the boik then goes on to point out excellent examples of hypocrisy but alarmingly, how Jehovajs followers follow ideas that now are acceptable but ten, twenty, thirty years ago, have rejected....point blank like Captuves says: it diesnt matter if the doctrine is true or false bit rather if the GB teaches if its ture...peruod. To stray is to alienate and apostacise from "the truth". So my flow friends, what do u make of it? Do witnesses foklow God or what men say God says?

Just saying!

eyeuse2badub

And

And why not since they now have "overlapping generations"

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