How JW's Blew My Missus' Bible Study...

by Englishman 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    It's true, she really did have someone call to take a Bible study with her.

    It had been set up by my parents who had convinced her that it was her duty to look into the religion that their wayward son (Moi!) had rejected.

    She studied for 3 or 4 weeks, she eventually became frustrated with the methods that were used, she said that she didn't mind them supplying some answers, but she was blowed if she was going to allow them to supply the questions as well!

    It all ended unhappily, as she was voicing her opinion to the lady "study conductor", her little boy (a horrible spoiled brat) emptied out the contents of HL's handbag onto the floor, revealing a half pack of Benson & Hedges King Size.

    The woman was appalled at this, and was stupid enough to tell HL that she would have to give it up if she was going to get into the Kingdom. The woman had also just told me that she wasn't going to speak to me - this was in my own house!!! - so from that point on HL had a very clear understanding of what being a JW was all about.

    Interestingly, I had never voiced much criticism of the dubs to HL untill that point. They lost a potential convert all by themselves. Still, you know what they say, Out of their own mouths.....!

    Englishman.

  • AjaxMan
    AjaxMan

    Correct me if I'm wrong, Eman.

    The impression that I get from JWs is that at first they show an extremely nice, loving, happy and personable outward appearance. However, all that is just a facade, a mask hiding a real ugly drone personality with all the programming of the WitchTower Babble and Trash Society. They go around arrogantly thinking that they have all the answers and that they are the "know it all" of everything.

    It all ended unhappily, as she was voicing her opinion to the lady "study conductor", her little boy (a horrible spoiled brat) emptied out the contents of HL's handbag onto the floor, revealing a half pack of Benson & Hedges King Size.

    The woman was appalled at this, and was stupid enough to tell HL that she would have to give it up if she was going to get into the Kingdom. The woman had also just told me that she wasn't going to speak to me - this was in my own house!!!

    Speaking of Manners. So much for their "Christian" Love. More likely, it's more of their arrogance that they think they are God's chosen people and they can do whatever they want.

    Regards.

    Ajax

  • Matty
    Matty

    Eman
    Well, at least she was honest - we are told to be very tactful early on about things that "our studies" do that contradict the teachings - in reality we don't want to scare them off with the full facts about being "in the truth" do we?

    She was displaying a typical behaviour that comes when someone is totally isolated from reality. JWs cocoon themselves in their mutual appreciation society so much and have so much of a superiority complex, its bound to leak out occasionally!

    By the way, as a gauge to how they generally view "studies", do you remember any ways that JWs have introduced their "studies" that made you really cringe? How about "Hello, this is my goodwill", which was popular in the 60's and 70's? And did you ever get a hint of JWs being disappointed when their studies get baptised because of the "there goes my 4/5 hours a month!" factor? Hmm...

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Oh yes, Eman, this hits a nerve! So much so that I'm gonna repeat your statement with emphasis because I've personally seen this go on and is one of the aspects of the borg that caused me to be ashamed to be an elder.

    The woman had also just told me that she wasn't going to speak to me - this was in my own house!!! - so from that point on HL had a very clear understanding of what being a JW was all about.

    You must be very thankful to your visitors showing HL at first hand the "dark side" of the borg.

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

    - Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress

  • AjaxMan
    AjaxMan
    You must be very thankful to your visitors showing HL at first hand the "dark side" of the borg.

    More likely it's the "real side" of the borg.

  • out4good3
    out4good3
    The woman had also just told me that she wasn't going to speak to me - this was in my own house!!!

    You're a lot nicer about that than I ever could've been. If anyone ever tried that in my house they would've been very rudely kicked to the curb.

  • Englishman
    Englishman
    If anyone ever tried that in my house they would've been very rudely kicked to the curb.

    This event that I related happened not long into our marriage - HL was a smoker, Gasp!

    I had been brought up in a typical middle-class atmosphere, one of our households constantly heard dictums was "Not in front of the ladies", which meant that I had got used to treating the fairer sex as though they were made of porcelain. Consequently I am ingrained with the idea that ladies have to be treated with extra care both physically and verbally.

    Mind you, I did once tell a lady poster to go boil her head, so I guess I'm making progress.

    Englishman.

  • gsx1138
    gsx1138

    Yeah, my wife had to break all the nice guy outta me. Now, it's 2002 buddy and I treat everyone exactly the same. Women get no special anything at all. I think the whole touchy feely thing with women has led to a state of constant victimhood. Of course it is good to see that the face of the WTS showed itself before the real programing could begin. Now if I could just get my mom out of the Borg all would be good. She said her reason for staying in is that, "JW are the only ones to explain the kingdom of God to her in a way the made sense." Any ideas?

    Dear Lord, please save me from your followers.

  • CPiolo
    CPiolo

    gsx1138:

    Now if I could just get my mom out of the Borg all would be good. She said her reason for staying in is that, "JW are the only ones to explain the kingdom of God to her in a way the made sense." Any ideas?
    This makes sense?

    The Truth (as I seen it)
    According to Jehovah's Witnesses

    by Gary Busselman

    , http://www.freeminds.org/buss/truth.htm

    GOD is the creator, but since he only created Michael,
    and Michael created everything else, ("all other things")
    that would seem to make Michael the real creator,
    but only in a sense, since Michael is Jesus and Michael said to Satan,
    "the Lord rebuke you" makes the Lord powerful over Satan,
    however when Michael had to throw Satan out of heaven in 1914
    he had to do battle with his own creations, Satan and His Angels,
    and in 1918 when he selected Joe Rutherford to be his earthly channel
    and had to put the truth in the mind of Joe
    so Joe could write the truth in the Watch Tower
    and build Beth Sarim.

    All this would be hard to understand if it were not for the "salvation" doctrine,
    which is easy to understand since the living evildoers
    will all be made dead at Armageddon
    and the dead evildoers will be made alive at Armageddon,
    thus the living sinners will die and the dead sinners will live,
    except the dead who are made alive will not really be made alive again
    but when they die God kinda makes a sort of computer chip, in a sense,
    of all the information in their brains,
    like their memories, thoughts, and personality
    and keeps this stored in heaven
    and the Angels that don't join up with Satan help
    and then after Armageddon, God makes a perfect replica body,
    and somehow inserts this memory chip in the perfect replica body
    and then he will judge that new creation of the old person
    who was dead but is now alive, sort of,
    by how he treats the anointed who are mostly dead
    but are represented by the Governing Body, who are not inspired
    but only receive Divine direction,
    and by how well he follows the directions of the Organization
    and if he sins he dies.

    To survive Armageddon, the only way is to be serving God
    in the only Organization that has the truth, Jehovah's Witnesses.
    The truth is defined as the current teachings of the Governing Body
    which largely consist of denying their own past teachings
    and condemning views that are held by other groups
    that the Governing Body will someday adopt as their "new light"
    and "the truth". Serving God is defined as attending the five weekly meetings
    of Jehovah's Witnesses, reading all of the weeks lessons before the meetings,
    including underlining the answer to the questions at the bottom of the pages
    in the paragraphs with a red marker, (yellow highlighter is optional
    as long as it is used in moderation) answering any questions you may come up
    with by yourself, while you keep those questions secret and to yourself,
    by looking up the proper subject headings in the Index published by the Society
    and referencing to the proper Watchtower article
    while attending meetings for field service
    and going out in cars to try to recruit new members into the group
    and to solicit contributions to be turned into the group leaders
    in exchange for Watchtower publications that members paid for
    at the Kingdom Hall using the voluntary donation arrangement
    that was adopted after the Society failed in their attempt to defend Jimmy Swaggert
    in the Supreme Court of California
    after the Superior Authorities fell out of love with him
    and charged him with avoiding sales tax on literature sales
    and all Witnesses must do this or they die.

    Loyalty to "Jehovah's Organization" is important
    since surviving Armageddon is contingent on how well
    we vindicate Jehovah's name which is really YHWH
    and pronounced Yahweh by most Biblical scholars
    only since that was changed to sanctify
    and it now is to exalt Jehovah's Name, not to vindicate anymore,
    and to announce the kingdom that was set up in heaven in 1914 after Jesus
    returned invisibly in 1874
    and again in 1914 for the separating of the sheep and the goats
    by selling Watchtower publications door to door
    and then in 1995 this was changed to
    not separating the sheep from the goats
    but to require all Jehovah's Witnesses to believe
    that the separating of the sheep and the goats will be a future event
    to begin after the start of the Great Tribulation
    except that Jesus had to actually start his judging of the sheep and the goats in 33 AD
    and that he only picked 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
    and the number was filled in 1935
    and then the earth was going to be used for the testing ground
    for all the re-created dead sinners and Jehovah's Witnesses for 1000 years
    because this all ties into the date of 1914
    which was arrived at by Nelson Barbour by adding 30 years to William Miller's
    failed Apocalypse expectation date of 1844 which was arrived at by adding a
    year to the previously failed date of 1843, to arrive at 1874, which when
    the end didn't come, he added 40 more years to come up with 1914 which
    Charles Taze Russell adopted and changed to 1915 when the Apocalypse didn't
    come in 1914 then to 1918 when it didn't come in 1915, then he died.

    This is all so simple that a child could understand
    especially in view of the fact that the seven trumpets of Revelation
    were the seven Jehovah's Witness District assemblies from 1922 to 1928,
    starting with Cedar Point, Ohio and ending with Detroit, Michigan,
    only they weren't called Jehovah's Witnesses then
    but since Jehovah picked them in 1918 he waited until 1931
    to give them his name while the generation living in 1914
    and of the age of understanding, about 12 or 15, when World War One broke out,
    except it had been breaking out for a number of years before 1914,
    meaning that the generation that saw 1914 would by no means pass away
    before Armageddon started and "by no means"
    indicates that the majority would be living and never die
    since Jesus told Joe Rutherford that "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"
    by an angel and Joe wrote a book about the dead Princes,
    Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and others would be resurrected to the earth in 1925
    and live in a house he built for them in 1929 in San Diego, California
    except he lived in it himself
    because he thought the start of World War Two would be the beginning of Armageddon
    and then he died.

    Usually this is best understood by believing the truth as Nathan Knorr and Fred Franz
    wrote about it in the Watchtower since they knew that service was the answer
    and that six thousand years since Adam and Eve ended in 1975
    and that maybe, might, could, should be the start of Armageddon
    but they don't remember writing anything about 1975
    and they couldn't say for sure when Eve was created
    and besides so many were going to prison because they were loyal to God
    by refusing alternative service to active military duty
    and no one was taking organ transplants or buying Girl Scout Cookies
    and then they died.

    Sometimes the truth comes as flashes of light and the vaccinations,
    and organ transplants are now all okay and the drafted boys don't go to prison
    but stay at home to be elders and pioneers instead of going to jail
    and the sheep are waiting and the goats are waiting too
    and the generation of 1914 waited too,
    then they died.

    CPiolo

  • out4good3
    out4good3

    Thanks for clearing all that up for me.

    Whew !!!!!!!

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