"Why Nobody Ever Came Looking For You when you faded!"

by RottenRiley 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  RottenRiley

  They are afraid you are going to infect the good works done by the active JWs. Are you aware that "One weak JW who is fading can take out Five strong JWs, so it's best to avoid or greatly limit your contact with weak JWs?" Circuit Overseer (past) words.

  Who, who get's Shepherd Calls by their elders, most is done to inviduals who showed more promise than other Witnesses who had sub-par Field Service time. Investment hours of your elders is based on your former productivity, if you were a "Drain-O Witness", don't plan on seeing anyone other than another weak person who actually cared about you.

  Why do the "strong Witnesses focus on being around the strong"? The same reason the Pharisees craved the adultation of other Pharisees, unless the Witness are seen doing something by other men and women, it's no fun to perform acts of charity. Blowing the trumphet, if the trumpet is blown you better make sure there are lots of Witnesses who can observe your religion.

  Religion is the practice of serving God before mankind, Spirituality is the search of truth, trying to seek more truth without the aid of onlookers. How many times did you hear "The World Can See Us In Field Service", "They know where here even if they don't answer the door!" It's all about "they" and "them", not God and Jesus Christ, "the elders know we were in Field Service or the elders know we are sick" is justification before men, does that make sense? What did the elders do with all the information they collected from you, the elders based your past production on how often to check up on you if your not attending meetings for any period of time. Some elders are so incompetent, they will allow a Pioneer to go off the list, not check up on a former huge "shaker" who tilted their congregation hours big time, they allow this person to fade and never be seen cause they are too lazy!
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  mynameislame

  Interesting points, makes me wonder what the numbers would be like if they spent more time helping the weak who might actually look forward to a loving visit rather than spending all their time going "not at home" to "not at home".

  Also why is it that they don't encourage the elders to work part time so they can fulfill their "responsibilities"?

  Honestly in some ways I feel bad for the sincere elders,(Yes I've known a couple) who work full time, go to all the meetings, prepare talks, keep up their fake 10 hours a month, take care of their families and homes. On top of that they are supposed to do shepherding calls. Who has time and energy for all that?
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  "One weak JW who is fading can take out Five strong JWs, so it's best to avoid or greatly limit your contact with weak JWs?"

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  That doesn't say much about the "faith" of a JW, does it?

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  For all of WT's posturing about being the greatest religion on the planet, turning out the greatest Christians ever, it takes very little to undermine their so-called "faith".

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  Add this to what a CO said in one of the last meetings I ever went to: "very few JWs will survive Armageddon". Great! God's going to destroy 99.9% of humans....then destroy 99.9% of the only ones allegedly trying their damndest to serve him too. Epic fail !
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  mynameislame

  "very few JWs will survive Armageddon"

  I guess we can assume he would be one of the few?
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  designs

  Shirley- Can you imagine a more destructive thing to say to someone who considers themself a Believer. Guy needs to take some Zig Zigler courses, geeez.
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  mynameislame

  RottenRiley I guess you got me thining.

  How many strong Witnesses did you even know?

  The percentage of JWs that I would have considered strong was probably around 3-5%
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  new hope and happiness

  Actually the way i figured it in my case " strong" brother suddenley stops going to meetings...and they were experienced to know i aint going back.So elders i was friendley with dont want the altercation. Leave it to the elders who i wasnt so familliar with. And as i WONT discuss religon with them they soon get frustrated.
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Shirley- Can you imagine a more destructive thing to say to someone who considers themself a Believer. Guy needs to take some Zig Zigler courses, geeez.

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  The upside is it was one of the proverbial last straws that helped me see this Org. for what it is: it's a religion of, "what have you done for us today?" And, guess what? It ain't ever enough, no matter how much you've done!

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  That CO's visit was the most discouraging bunch of rubbish I'd heard in a long time, and the timing of it moved me right out. Looking back I think about that CO with the words, "thanks, dumbass! You were trying to guilt everyone into working harder for the WT but you helped me make a decision to swiftly exit".
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  Dis-Member

  The month before I quit I clocked up 280 hours for the borg... I was placing mags. books and bibles like there was no tomorrow.. I was the only one out working alone from sometimes 6am to catch the early folk gong to work. I had elders trying to stop me taking literature from the counter and even cancelled my orders for more behind my back because they thought I was placing too much literature. Other elders and pioneers would take me aside and try to slow me down and discourage me. I got the cold shoulder very frequently. When I started bringing groups of interested persons to the meetings I can't tell you the stares and bad vibes I got from other pioneers.

  I think my zeal just embarrassed them and exposed their own insincerity. My one and only motive was to try to do more and try to please God.

  The brothers hated me for this zeal. Even elders.

  So yes it's very bizarre that when I suddenly stopped cold that no one has even attempted to find out why I quit like a light switch. All they had to do was ask me.
  
  And I would have told them to their faces that they were all frauds.
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  OnTheWayOut

  I had words with the C.O. and I have every confidence that he told the elders that it's best to avoid me, that I might take others with me if a concerted effort were put into me.

  Visits to inactive ones are to those that occasionally go to meetings and could be guilted into going more and/or dropping a ten-spot into the box. They choose someone to visit with the C.O. that will make everyone look and feel good about the visit. "Good job, elder." "Thanks, C.O. Good of you to encourage our dear brother with your rock-star visit." "Good job, Publisher, making the elder and C.O. look good and feel proud."

  I know it is a bit disturbing that many put in decades of service, including reaching for privileges of service (just disgusting as I said it), and they don't try to "snatch you out of the fire" when you leave. (That's what the C.O. said was their job with me, but I bet he said to them to only 'snatch' if I made an effort to come back and shut my mouth.) But after a while, I hope you realize you are way better off that they did not try to do more for you.