My JW mom is coming to visit this Friday!!

by Faithful Witness 15 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Faithful Witness
    Faithful Witness

    My parents are recent converts to JW (both baptized). I was never a JW, but did study with them for a long time. After doing research, my husband and I quit going to meetings and stopped the BS.

    My dad is completely indoctrinated at this point, but my mom sees how ridiculous he is being. I have always been very close with my mom, but not so much with my dad. He does not answer my calls or emails. He is avoiding me, and acts like a wooden statue when we do see each other. I know he is confused. I've just been giving him his space.

    I have made contact with my mom. I called her about 2 weeks after my sister decided to "stop communicating" with me. My mom didn't seem to know about sis's decision, and it clearly made her upset. She expressed frustration and anger at the way my sister was acting. She had also had another conversation with her, where sis told her they would not be interested in coming to our family party, even if it was at JW mom's house. "You can check w/J, but I don't think we would come." My mom and I discussed this for a few minutes before she said, "I told Dad, 'You know... when you see things like this, it really makes you look at the Jehovah's Witnesses, and want nothing to do with it!'" I did not respond to her making that statement (my sentiments exactly).

    I am actually thinking that my sister's unreasonable behavior is going to stir the pot, upsetting Mom and really aggravating the peacemaker in her. This concern was one that Mom had raised years ago, while she was still studying. "Jehovah's Witnesses divide families." Well, now it has happened.

    Mom has also previously made the comment, "Well, maybe I shouldn't have gone ahead and been baptized..."

    Upon the advice of a friend, I emailed Mom and asked if I could be put on her calendar. The idea is that we will arrange and meet (weather-permitting) every 2nd Friday of the month. Last I heard, she is planning to come and visit this Friday. It will be nice if she does come, since the kids are really looking forward to it.

    In her email, Mom said, "I miss talking to you, too!" I do not plan to bring up anything JW, but have a feeling that she probably will.

    She is coming on Friday, but did make sure to mention that she has to go home Friday night. (She used to come for 2 night stays a few times a year). She said, "I need to go out in service. I've really been slacking!" I'm not sure the intention of that statement, which she has made a few times in the past. On the one hand, I'm sad to be reminded that the WTS is a higher priority than her grandkids she has not seen in months. On the other hand, I'm happy to hear that she's been "slacking!" Good girl, Mom!

    She went on to mention that she was visiting her (non-JW) sister last Saturday, so there goes another field service day out the window. Yay! Maybe I'm supposed to "understand" and therefore accept that the preaching work is more important than your own family. Her sister has no understanding of that, and they do get together one Saturday every month. One less Saturday of riding around, getting indoctrinated and judged... go see Aunt C instead!

    I have no agenda for her visit this week, except to have a good time and visit with my real mom. This whole JW experience has really put a spotlight on some personality issues that she has, but I've got plenty of real life things we can talk about. If she wants to bring up her concerns about anything from the JW's, I'm willing to listen. :)

    I take that back... There is one question I would like to ask her. She recently had a serious illness that prevented her from walking or leaving the house. She was hospitalized for 4 nights. I did not hear glowing reports of how many JW's were visiting or helping her out during her illness, so I am curious to know how much support and love she experienced in her time of need. I plan to ask, just casually...

    When we were Bible students, we had a few times of "need," and we found the JWs here to be oh so helpful and generous! They came and cleaned my house, brought us hot meals, watched the kids while I visited my husband at the hospital after our car accident... Such good neighbors they were. It really felt like genuine friendship and love. I now suspect that this type of giving behavior, is reserved for unbaptized ones. We were a gold mine for service hours, with our long Bible studies that were actually long social calls with 30 minutes of studying.

    Like a recent visitor to this site, impala63rag, I experienced what I would call some "true" friendship and care from the JWs I knew. To this day, I have a love and compassion for them, that I have not had with any others I know today. It is sad to admit that, since none of those people talk to me anymore, and they stopped "calling on us" almost 2 years ago now. I guess not even some bonus service time is worth risking your spiritual health by talking to someone who asks difficult questions.

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    Faithful Witness - I have no agenda for her visit this week, except to have a good time and visit with my real mom. This whole JW experience has really put a spotlight on some personality issues that she has, but I've got plenty of real life things we can talk about. If she wants to bring up her concerns about anything from the JW's, I'm willing to listen. :)

    Hi Faithful Witness, Enjoy your time with your Mom's authentic persona and help her authentic persona to reconnect with her grandchildren and you. Learn how to avoid saying things that bring out her cult persona.

    If your Mom asks you questions about the WTBTS, first ask her questions to learn what her authentic persona's feelings are, ask her what independent research she has done to satisfy her concerns/thoughts, and lastly use jgnat's advice to first ask permission from a JW to express your opinion to them. When asking more sensitive questions about the WTBTS's doctrines, remember how Billy the Ex-Bethelite asks questions in the thread exJW Psychology 102--How to Ask a Question When Questions Aren't Allowed.

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    Robert

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    have a good visit!

  • millie210
    millie210

    Faithful Witness, you sound like a wonderful daughter to your mom. Good for you!

  • Faithful Witness
    Faithful Witness

    I just got an email from her, telling me she is still planning to come. She has had the tendency to cancel plans with me, so I'm really glad she is coming over. We have also had the worst winter in decades, so I'm thankful there is no prediction of snow!!

    She even said she was looking forward to it. I feel like a little kid again... Mommy's coming home! hahaha.

    Time to panic clean (and also make sure there is no sign of apostate literature in sight...)

  • AlphaMan
    AlphaMan

    That is very nice. Hope you have a wonderful time with your Mother during her visit.

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    And they call it a religion of love.

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    why dont you attack the religion and its miss teachings now while you can since your dad and mom are new to the faith???

  • Faithful Witness
    Faithful Witness

    Crazyguy: I already tried that, and I was too late! It only convinced them to avoid me.

    My parents are both baptized. My father is fully indoctrinated. My sister has stopped speaking to me because she believes I not only "turned away from Jehovah," but have been "attacking the Witnesses."

    They belong to a cult, and unfortunately have become convinced that "Satan" and his army are now using me to try to draw them away from the flock.

    I have been spending the last 18 months, trying to regain trust and a real relationship with my family, my mother in particular. She used to be like my best friend, and I could tell her anything. I told her too much about the JWs, and she stopped visiting. She used to visit us and routinely spend 1-2 nights. Then she didn't visit us for over a year, and came over once for 3 hours. This is going to be visit #2 in 6 months.

    My kids really miss Grandma. My husband's parents are dead, so this is a special relationship to them.

    I am really hoping we can just have a fun time and create some memories today.

    The war against the Watchtower continues, but in a much more subtle way. She knows I have done research. She knows where I stand, and that I am also paying attention to the abuse my family is under by the WTS. Our once "happy enough" family, has been ripped in half by the JWs. My mother and I are both peacemakers by nature, and this is upsetting her. I hope she brings it up, but I don't want to spend all day focusing on the pain, fear and abuse.

  • Faithful Witness
    Faithful Witness

    We had a nice visit with Grandma. She really enjoyed visiting with the kids, and my son even got her to play Mario Kart racing, which was pretty hilarious. She made rubber band loom bracelets with my daughter, and was very patient and sweet to both of them.

    I did ask her how many visitors she had when in the hospital. She told me she had told Dad not to tell anyone she was there, so none! She liked it that way. That fits her true personality, and it also tells me that she does not have any friends at the KH that she really enjoys spending time with. She claims to like going out in service, and "wanting to get back into it... it's just been so cold!"

    She is coming back in 2 weeks, and is planning to spend the night next time. That will be fun. She said (as she always used to), "You know me, once I get here, I never want to go home!"

    While at dinner, she brought up a question about whether I get magazines anymore. It turns out, she meant the WT and Awake (duh). She said, "You're scaring them off." I told her i just have too many questions and they don't want to answer. They keep saying they are coming back, but then they never show up. Then I told her the example of the question I asked the last lady, about their time cards and reporting their good deeds to men for recognition, quoting Jesus in Matthew 6:1-5. I didn't pose the question to my mom, but just anecdotally. I wanted to give her something to chew on before she heads out in service this morning.

    Last fall, I had sent an email to her and my dad, about the article they finally studied last month, about "obeying instructions." She said that hadn't come up yet. I asked her what she meant, and she said, "They haven't given us the instructions yet." I asked what kinds of comments people were making during the study, and she said they kept hearing about reminders to be obedient during talks, and there were some articles about obeying the elders, but no instructions yet. We talked a little bit about this, and I did pose the question, "So, do you think the GB speaks for God?" She did not even take a breath before saying, "Yes. I do." Scary. Oops. i found the switch to her cult persona, but we quickly got back to normal dinner conversation and visiting with the kids. Much more fun.

    I look forward to seeing her again in 2 weeks. She is planning to bring me some magazines.

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