Russia calls for banning JWs

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  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:00 PM
    Subject: KNS RUSSIA: Prosecutor calls for ban on Jehovah's Witnesses

    KESTON NEWS SERVICE: 20.00, 16 February 2001

    RUSSIA: PROSECUTOR CALLS FOR COUNTRYWIDE JEHOVAH'S
    WITNESS BAN. At court hearings in Moscow over whether the Jehovah's
    Witnesses should be allowed to function, the prosecutor called for the
    closure of the group in the Russian capital and a countrywide ban on its
    activity. One of the Jehovah's Witnesses' lawyers attacked this as a
    'blatant example of infringement of the fundamental rights and freedoms
    of Russian citizens` and warned of the danger of giving the courts
    authority over religious belief.

    RUSSIA: PROSECUTOR CALLS FOR COUNTRYWIDE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS BAN

    by Tatyana Titova, Keston News Service

    At the court hearings in Moscow -- which have resumed after a two-year
    break -- over whether the Jehovah's Witnesses should be allowed to
    function the prosecutor insisted she was seeking not only the closure of
    the group
    in the Russian capital but a countrywide ban on its activity. However,
    one of the Jehovah's Witnesses' lawyers attacked the whole essence of the
    case. `The prosecutor's action is a blatant example of infringement of
    the fundamental rights and freedoms of Russian citizens, whose rights the
    prosecutor's office is supposed to defend,' Galina Krylova told the
    court. `The prosecutor is seeking to establish the precedence of the
    court over
    faith, which is dangerous in our multi-confessional country.' Krylova
    told Keston News Service on 13 February that the case was `part of the
    federal authorities' campaign against new religious movements'.

    The civil case against the Jehovah's Witnesses -- which resumed at the
    Golovinsky intermunicipal court on 6 February -- was launched by the
    prosecutor of Moscow's Northern Administrative district in September
    1998. It was suspended on 12 March 1999 to allow expert opinions on the
    group's literature to be gathered (see KNS 26 March 1999). Of the five
    specialists in religion, psychology and linguistics consulted, four
    supported the prosecutor's accusations, while the fifth rejected them.
    Jehovah's Witness lawyer Artur Leontiev argues this `takes the court
    proceedings back to square one'.

    The Moscow justice administration, which is a third party in the case,
    supports the prosecutor. On 9 February Yelena Serebchuk of the justice
    administration admitted the experts had not cited a single illegal
    action, but stressed the Jehovah's Witnesses are a strong organisation
    with a well organised system of preaching and attracting new members.
    `Imagine what would happen if everybody in the country became Jehovah's
    Witnesses,' Serebchuk appealed to the judges in an apparent reference to
    the group's rejection of military service. `Who would defend the
    motherland?'

    Prosecutor Tatyana Kondratyeva called for the ban on the group's activity
    across Russia in response to a question from the judge, Yelena
    Prokhorycheva. Over 360 Jehovah's Witness congregations have official
    registration in the country and on 29 April 1999 the Ministry of Justice
    re- registered the group's Administrative Centre, citing the expert
    opinion of the state religious studies commission, which Prokhorycheva
    refused to admit as evidence.

    Prokhorycheva also rejected the defence petition to admit as evidence a
    survey of some 1000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Moscow by the department of
    sociology of the family at Moscow State University, which discovered the
    faith had a positive influence on the stability of marriage. Jehovah's
    Witnesses were tolerant towards those who do not share their convictions,
    the survey found, and have a higher level of education than the city
    average.

    The court also rejected an investigation of their literature by the
    Institute of Russian Language of the Academy of Sciences, which refuted
    the prosecutor's accusations.

    On 13 February expert witness Mariya Gromyko, a chief scientific worker
    of the Institute of Ethnography and Anthropology of the Academy of
    Sciences, who belongs to the Orthodox Church, claimed that Jehovah's
    Witnesses' critical comments about Christian denominations kindle
    religious discord. She argued that a minority cannot criticise the
    majority as this leads to social destabilisation. However, Gromyko
    confirmed that the expert opinion was based on extracts from Jehovah's
    Witness publications and admitted the experts had not included positive
    statements encouraging tolerance of all regardless of their religious
    views.

    Expert witness, Viktor Belyanin, a doctor of philology, insisted the
    group's doctrine does not correspond to that of the traditional faiths
    listed in
    the preamble to Russia's controversial 1997 religion law (which specifies
    Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Buddhism). He added that `Jehovah' does
    not appear in the Bible as a name of God, but conceded he had not read
    the whole Bible. After conducting a linguistic analysis of Jehovah's
    Witness texts, Belyanin discovered they contain 22% `light' vocabulary
    and 22% `dark' vocabulary -- the remainder being neutral -- concluding
    that overall their literature has a `negative effect' on the psyche.

    On 14 February three more expert witnesses appeared. Sergei Nebolsin, a
    sector head at the Institute of World Literature of the Academy of
    Sciences, and Dmitri Leontiev, of the psychology faculty of Moscow State
    University, echoed the earlier expert witnesses. But Sergei Ivanenko, a
    religion specialist and consultant to the Federation Council, disagreed
    with the prosecutor, claiming the other four expert witnesses went beyond
    the bounds of science and expressed their own personal views. (END)

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  • waiting
    waiting

    Hey Randy,

    Thank you.

    [quote]Expert witness, Viktor Belyanin, a doctor of philology, insisted the group's doctrine does not correspond to that of the traditional faiths listed in the preamble to Russia's controversial 1997 religion law (which specifies Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Buddhism). He added that `Jehovah' does not appear in the Bible as a name of God, but conceded he had not read the whole Bible. After conducting a linguistic analysis of Jehovah's Witness texts, Belyanin discovered they contain 22% `light' vocabulary and 22% `dark' vocabulary -- the remainder being neutral -- concluding that overall their literature has a `negative effect' on the psyche.

    We've recently had a thread about Kingdom Melodies - and the words which we all sang forth for years. How many times the words "God's undeserved loving kindness" was extended to us sinners. We don't even deserve to live - but because of kindness we exist. We don't deserve anything - not even breath.

    And some wonder at the problem of low self-esteem.

    Thank you again.

    waiting

  • Snowball
    Snowball

    This is really a difficult thing here. On one hand, I have no desire to see the spread of JW indoctrination. But on the other, I loath religious persecution. Surely there has to be a better way of handling semi-cultic religious groups than bans? Do they not realise that banning simply reinforces the groups indoctrinations?

    Also, I've been loosely following the Russia case, and am appalled at just how bungled the prosecution is. They clearly are not informed enough about JWs. They seem to be going after them for all the wrong reasons, with all the wrong arguments. Any one of us could make a much more lucid...and fair-minded...case than those Russian prosecutors could.

  • Simon
    Simon

    I think the best control is what was done in France - Tax them !
    If you make it 'not worth their while' to expand there then they wont (appart from a few hard-liners who actually believe the stuff).
    It's not about faith or belief but a large organisation after more property and money.
    I agree that an outright ban would be dangerous as it re-inforces the belief that everyone is against them.

  • ISP
    ISP

    Nice to see ya posting here Randy.

    ISP

  • thinkers wife
    thinkers wife

    I feel like Snowball. Hate to see the wrong kind of control. I have mixed feelings about this. Because as much as I would like to see the end of JW's, I think it would be better if it came from within (emotionally) the people. A decision on their own part. Taxes are a good idea.
    It is also ironic that controlled people i.e. Russians would be pointing the finger about mind control.
    TW

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    I am not in favor of the ban. You have a country that is groomed in patriarchal control mechanisms punishing another of the same. How much better it would be for the Ministry of the Interior or whoever is in charge to develop an educational plan for teaching people about mind control. Of course, such might dismantle their own system. But sooner or later Russia and China have to allow the old guard to make way for more enlightened ones. More power to that! Banning groups only leads to martyrdom, look at Falun-Gong.
    www.freedomofmind.com

  • african GB Member
    african GB Member

    When is the harlot going to ban JW activity all around the world?

    GB

  • iceguy
    iceguy

    Its just another sign that Russia wants things to go back the way it use to be. The Russians want a new and improved Soviet Union!

  • heathen
    heathen

    I don't see how banning would make a difference since they'be been banned before and it made none . These type of things usually come from the other religions that really want the control anyway ,such as the russian orthodox church.

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