The finances of the JW in Canada

by StephaneLaliberte 15 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

    Yes, Revenu Canada now has a service to display all of that information for free: Click here !

    You can also have the finances of all the circuits, congregations and assembly halls over there. Wonder how much your Kingdom Hall is worth? Well, the information is there! You can do searches right here!

    Is one of you a developer? it would be nice to automatically crawl through theses records and get numbers like:

    • The total value of the kingdom/Assembly halls in Canada.
    • Is there one of these accounts that is used to funnel monney in some suspecious way?
    • The organizations to which monney are given, are they all recongnizable JW organizations?

    Enjoy!

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Yup, I've used this feature for years. Search under "Jehovah" for all the Kingdom Halls. Search for "Circuit" for the circuit finances. I think the convention funding routes through them to Georgetown. Search for "Watch Tower" (two words) for the Georgetown report. I am curious how much is sent to the US and for what.

    Oh, yes. The person responsible for finances is also listed in the report. I've often wondered how often this is updated. I'm betting there's a whole bunch of retired elders who still have their names on Revenue Canada paperwork.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    Anything interesting? Financial stuff just isn't my forte.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Oops. I thought I just mentioned the interesting stuff. A lot of money goes from Canada to the US branch, that is unexplained. Might it be for literature?

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    It might be very interesting. I'm just a bit dim with all this. With financial and legal stuff, it requires lots of interpreting and dumbing down before I get it.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    The same thing happens to me every time someone sits down and tries to teach me cribbage.

  • eyeuse2badub
    eyeuse2badub

    Very curious that we get to hear about many of the costs and expences of the WTBTS and how much money it takes to keep the missionaries. CO's, and DO's going but we NEVER hear about how much money is donated each year to the WTBTS. How about full disclosure? I know it won't ever happen but we should all demand it anyway!

    Just saying!

    eyeuse2badub

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

    I’ve been looking at the numbers here and there for a few hours and I must say that I am fascinated by what I am finding.

    For instance, here is the congregation of St-André Avelin in Québec. This congregation used to have a Kingdom Hall that had become too small for their needs. Therefore, plans were made and brothers and sisters brought their resources together to build a new hall, much to the appreciation of the local brothers who saw that the hand of Jehovah was not too short to help them out.

    Now, what the numbers show:

    • The old Kingdom Hall was sold for 162,000 $
    • Before the construction project, there was 40,000 $ in the bank.
    • The new Hall is now worth 241 000$
    • Labour was free.

    Trying to get a sense of how much was paid for the new hall (Knowing the labour was free), lets say they paid 70% of its actual worth; that is, 170 000 $. So, before the construction project, the locale congregation had 202 000$ in the bank, thus, an excess of 32,000 $ in regards to the actual cost. And yet, now, they are back to 3 000$ in the bank and the same as usual “occupancy cost” they will need to pay.

    Now, the following is interpretation, but it looks like the society has played with the number with this congregation and a few others to achieve the following result: Take the proceeds of the sale and the money in the account and send back 177 000$ of that money back to the congregation at interest so that now, the local brothers and sisters are paying interest on their own money! And as for the 30,000$ Looks like it was used to fund some other renovation projects in other halls.

    If I was not still a Jehovah’s Witness, I think I would bring this up to the attention of Revenue Canada and ask some questions about it.

  • mynameislame
    mynameislame

    Not sure how they qualify as a charity. Although, that seems to apply to most of the churches I looked at, not just the KH

    Ongoing programs:

    To assist the local unincorporated association of Jehovah's Witnesses in carrying out their religious objective of preaching the good news of God's Kingdom and promoting public religious worship designed to uplift Jehovah's Witnesses and any who attend their public meetings by means of moral and spiritual instruction based on God's Word the Bible.

    I found this odd for the one I looked at:

    Receipted donations $15,540 (84%) Non-receipted donations $2,878 (16%) Why are there so many receipted donation compared to the non-receipted? I thought they gave in secret? (ha ha, i guess that isn't so suprising) The others I looked at seemed to have mostly receipted donations as well. A few I looked at also had "Gifts from other charities". Wonder what those are from? And what exactly is the "Charitable program" listed in the expense column?

  • mynameislame
    mynameislame

    Whats up with the Applewood Congregation.

    Total revenue: $132,953 Management and administration $850 What heading is the heat and electricity under?

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