Chinese Schools Commence Term 1, 2014 - Kids are Kids everywhere

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  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    And that thought, Apognophos, raises some interesting questions.

    If we assume that the USA has, 'lost it.' We should ask, why? Is it a consequence of 'success,' and that once people are able to live comfortably, they lose the 'hunger?'

    If so, will the the Chinese, lose it, once they have had a few generations of comfortable living?

    Guess, I'll never see the answers to the questions. (grin)

    All the assumptions are generalisations. I know (anecdotally) that there are Chinese students in Sydney, that have lost the hunger, and merely waste their parents hard-earned money.

    OTOH, there are caucasian kids I've seen at the two universities I attend, that study very hard, with brilliant results. I plod in their dust.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    If we assume that the USA has, 'lost it.' We should ask, why? Is it a consequence of 'success,' and that once people are able to live comfortably, they lose the 'hunger?'

    Well, I think people work their hardest when they are trying to come up in the world. Once they're accomplished, they can rest on their laurels. I don't quite know how this individual psychological trait also operates on the national scale, but I think people have an innate sense when they are a part of something larger which is important and promising, and it invigorates them on an individual level. American settlers felt this way when they were building the nation in the 1800s. It was hard work, but they rose to the occasion. The world wars might have briefly sparked a sense of purpose again.

    But overall we're just too comfortable now to do much more than gripe about how we've lost confidence in our politicians, while not lifting a finger to actually replace any of them or rally for political reform. When you get down to it, even in a recession, life in the U.S. is still pretty comfortable for most people. And there's not a lot of room for growth, or at least it feels that way. Whereas in China I imagine they can feel things picking up pace and improving on almost a daily basis.

    The other day in the grocery store, I was buying pasta and I discovered that they now sell pre-cut spaghetti. It's cut into shorter lengths so you don't need to break it by hand when you're making a dish that calls for shorter spaghetti. That's progress in the United States. An increment of an iota of a micrometer. And oh goodness, did you hear about the cronut? People waddle forward in lines that extend blocks outside the bakery just to taste it.

    Progress in China, on the other hand, is building first-world infrastructure for a billion people, or upgrading the educational system for 220 million kids.

  • GrreatTeacher
    GrreatTeacher

    In other education news, Maryland State Assessments (MSA) have been canceled today due to a snowstorm. Yes, schools are closed on March 3 due to snow!

    Will this winter ever end?

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    The Shanghai School system system came under scrutiny when it topped the PISA test. It doesn't mean that China has a perfect system. It does mean that they are very pragmatic and do not want to accept that the present is perfect and cant be improved. I read this material focussed on China, because I set out to understand what may be happening in this transformed nation that exists on a different philosophical foundation to my own social experience.

    This is a BBC NEWS report that discussed some of the reasons why the Shanghai system got such good results. The report highlighted these factors:

    SHANGHAI EDUCATION

    • 2009 Pisa: First place in maths, reading and science
    • First Chinese district to require continuous professional development for teachers
    • 80% of pupils enter higher education
    • 80% have private tuition
    • Almost 3,000 schools, 1.8 million pupils
    You scrape together the last money of the grandparents to pay for the education of your children. As a society you invest in education rather than consumption”

    The full report follows:

    Web reference: http://www.bbc.com/news/education-25090034

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    3 December 2013 Last updated at 10:02

    Shanghai's 'mind boggling' school ambition

    By Sean CoughlanBBC News education correspondent

    "It's mind boggling," says the OECD's Andreas Schleicher, describing the ambitions of Shanghai's education system.

    The Chinese city has not only remained as the highest performer in this year's international Pisa tests in maths, reading and science, it has accelerated even further ahead.

    So what makes it so successful?

    Mr Schleicher, who runs the Pisa tests taken every three years, says Shanghai is engaged in a systematic, long-term project to improve education, as a way of transforming its economy.

    "You can see from the minister down to the teacher in the classroom that this is their future and they believe education is the great equaliser," says Mr Schleicher, the OECD's education expert.

    "That's why they make it prestigious to teach in a tough school," he says.

    Ringing parents

    A recent survey showed that teachers have a higher status in China than anywhere else in the world - and Mr Schleicher says they are not afraid of using this influence.

    "Teachers call up parents at least fortnightly, they ring them on their mobile to check on how their children are working. They also tell them how to improve their parenting," he says.

    A characteristic of the Shanghai system is to require continuous professional training for teachers, with time away from the classroom.

    "They want every educator on the front line to be a researcher, it's like wanting every doctor to be a research scientist," he says.

    Another key to the high numbers passing exams is the expectation that they will.

    The Shanghai system is not a "sorting mechanism" in which a diminishing number of people are allowed to progress through a narrowing funnel of education.

    Instead it assumes that a large majority of pupils will be willing and able to succeed and that teachers are expected to make this possible.

    This doesn't necessarily mean it's a "fair" system, he says. It's an intensely competitive meritocracy.

    "If you are better than others, you're going to get better chances. That's the underlying belief," he says.

    It isn't a place of safety nets.

    And the intense competition means that an estimated 80% of students have private tutors.

    Teacher 'generals'

    There is also competition between teachers, says the OECD, with four grades of professional status.

    Teachers are seen as "generals", able to make their own decisions, the OECD reports, and local government education officials are often drawn from the ranks of head teachers and teachers.

    The success of Shanghai and Hong Kong has often been put down to a Chinese historic cultural predisposition to education.

    But this legacy is a mixed picture.

    There is a longstanding belief in education as the route for social mobility, through institutions such as the highly competitive civil examinations system, which operated in China for centuries.

    But in the 1950s the Chinese system had adopted a Soviet Russian model, and in the 1980s the country was still trying to get places for all children in primary and secondary school.

    The current high-performing system has only been developed in the past couple of decades.

    Raising standards

    Within China, Shanghai has been seen as a pioneer in improving education.

    It was at the forefront of raising teaching standards, such as the drive for an all-graduate teaching staff.

    About 80% of young people in Shanghai enter higher education, far above the Chinese national average, and another reform was to create a local entrance system for the city's universities.

    There is no Pisa test result figure for all China, instead the rankings show a handful of urban hothouses such as Shanghai and Hong Kong.

    It might not be representative of all China, but Shanghai is a relatively big place in its own right. It's bigger in population terms than countries such as Sweden, Greece and the Netherlands.

    And in the next Pisa tests, to be taken in 2015, it is expected there will be enough data to show the performance of China as a whole country.

    Mr Schleicher puts the success of Shanghai into the bigger picture of China and Asia.

    There is a drive to re-invent the economy, switching from cheap manufacturing to hi-tech innovation.

    "They're not afraid of losing jobs in the production sector, they want to move up the value chain, they want to upgrade their talent pool," says Mr Schleicher.

    Even in the poorest areas of China they are pushing this educational upgrading, he says.

    "So why are they doing it? It's an intriguing question. I guess it comes to how society is balanced, the present against the future. What you have in Asian societies is the willingness to sacrifice the present for a better future."

    "You make long-term investments in yourself and in society. You scrape together the last money of the grandparents to pay for the education of your children. As a society you invest in education rather than consumption.

    "All of those things are very strong in Asia. There is the belief that to have a better future you have to make compromises today."

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    Side note: Did you know?

    Graduation ceremony in Shanghai

    In 2013, nearly 7 million university students graduated in China.

    I assume that figure was for students in China. There are many more studying overseas.

    At my university, total enrollments are around 40,000 and around 30% are from overseas, most of them Chinese. This week (week 1, of semester 1) which is orientation week, a number of student organisation stalls had Chinese flags, indicating an interest in attracting Chinese students.

  • villagegirl
    villagegirl

    I worked for the local school board in Canada, testing incoming Chinese

    students from Mainland China. Most had high school and even univerity degrees,

    even though China still does not have tuition free High School, their free

    or almost free education is to eighth grade. The testing of these students

    across the board gave an average score of 4th grade in the Canadian standard

    tests. In classroom situations, the incoming Chinese exhibited an astounding lack

    of general knowledge, like how to locate where they where on a map, or even how

    to find China on a world map. They were taught China was the center of the universe.

    Their educational systems in China are memorization by rote and repeating what they

    memorized. Analytical and critical thinking and problem solving was not part of their

    process. The quality of the their textbooks and educational materials is very low in

    China. Basic elementary school science, taught in 3rd,4th, 5th 6th, 7th, 8th grades

    in North America and Europe was absent from their education and they

    demonstrated little understanding of science, sanitation,biology, chemistry,

    or world history. Animal rights were unknown to them, or concepts of human rights.

    They had been taught the 36 strategies. A document and philosophy that glorifies

    deception and manipulation and lying to accomplish goals.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    VG -I can offer no explanation for the gap between your perceptions, carried out in a local school system (somewhere in Canada) and the PISA results, which as stated, tested only the Shanghai school system (Population comparison - Canada: 35 million vs Shanghai 24 million). The PISA tests were conducted in 2012. You do not state the year(s) in which your tests were performed.

    This is the chart that was part of a BBC report on the release of the tests.

    Maths scores

    The report stated that more school areas in China will participate in the next PISA tests scheduled for 2015.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    The PISA test results brought a lot comment when released. From individuals as well as educational organisations:

    Another BBC report included some personal viewpoints: ( http://www.bbc.com/news/business-25205112 )

    One Chinese student studying in a UK university, commented:

    I am a Chinese, I really don't think Pisa test matters much. I am studying in UK university right now, so it is easy for me to compare these two education systems. Students in Asian countries are more likely to spend more time in school, basically to get high scores in exam in order to stand out among so many people. My past experience in Chinese education system was not that good: arts and PE are generally not valued much, many students just study every day instead of doing their hobbies. What for? I hate this type of education. I am really jealous of the UK students who have so much time to play sports, to learn arts. Both systems need to learn from each other. Naichen, China.

    It can be noted that his complaint against his Chinese education, included the fact that there was no organised sports or art topics. However, a common complaint by critics of western education, is that too much emphasis on sports and hobbies.

    A Singaporean, also with experience at a UK University, says:

    As a product of both the Singaporean and British education systems, and speaking as a graduate in a STEM Subject, my opinion is that there is a culture of complacency in the UK. In Singapore or Hong Kong your child has to be successful to enter university, there is a lot more competition there and many don't make the grade. University in those regions is a saving grace for the family, the fear of family financial failure is greater than fear of exam stress and so people won't give a second thought to providing outside tuition. It all sounds stressful and 'survival of the fittest' but unfortunately that's the way the world works outside the UK's borders. Damon, Birmingham

    My emphasis in bold

    A Canadian offers this opinion:

    Practical tests like PISA with measurable results to benchmark educational systems are a wonderful tool to show which local and regional systems need upgrading. It is disappointing to see British and other poor performers criticize the test instead of working on improvements. We are being by-passed by China. Our children will have a much tougher life than we have had. Neil, Quebec, Canada

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