Thirty Years a Watch Tower Slave (page 2)

transhuman68

LOL, I read his book back in the early 80's- my dad had a copy of it. It is not a great book, and it didn't help me at all, except I wondered why he had taken 30 years to make up his mind. But this thread reminds me how crappy the pre-internet information was. I really think that the debate about God, the Bible etc. has just begun, and the 'fuzzy' thinkers of the past like W. Schnell & R. Franz are dinosaurs from the past, and will be forgotten and irrelevant in the future.

ablebodiedman

Of course, I didn’t agree with all his views. For instance, that the Watchtower is the Wild Beast.

Really?

He was absolutely correct!

(Now I'm going to have to read it.)

abe

FatFreek 2005

I recently bought a copy of "30 years ... ". I still have my CofC from the early 80's when it first hit the bookshelves. No comparison when you compare the demeanor of the two. Schnell came across to me as bitter yet full of information that, if verifiable, could have offset much of his bitterness. Franz, on the other hand, was articulate, gentle, objective, and came across as factual with an armload of scanned documents within his pages of CofC. May you rest in peace, Ray.

Len

rebel8

That was the first ex-jw thing I ever read. I believe I read that even before coming to ex-jw forums. I was long out of the borg but still emotionally hurting deeply from it at that time. I'd had essentially no exposure to ex-jws and no knowledge of the scandals. I was no longer afraid of 'apostates' (by then I was already labeled one myself).

I don't remember much of what was in the book, except the stories seemed too outlandish for me to believe at the time. I didn't think it all could be true. I thought the title was for shock value and decreased the author's credibility in my eyes. The end of it preaching xianity left me with a sour note, not for the author (to each, his own), but because that's not my thing.

It would be interesting to take a look at it now that I'm fully awakened.

smiddy

I read that book probably in the 60`s ? newly converted and I just thought it was some disgruntled witness who had an axe to grind .

smiddy

integ

Yeah. Suggesting the WTS is the "Wild Beast" is giving them way too much "credit". They are just a marginal, yet sinister group of grandiose wannabees.

Just like they are "rocking the nations". They aren't rocking jack squat.

I'm sure though that the "trumpet blasts" of Revelation no doubt refer to some announcement at a convention in Cedar Point Ohio in 1929 or whenever.

That is so ridiculous.

Aunt Fancy

I also read the book but it wasn't one of my favorite books. Some of it was interesting but I am glad I read other books first.

RottenRiley

Londo, we were so lucky Brother Ray Franz jr. loved Jesus Christ more than he loved the praise and financial security provided by the Watchtower Society. Do you all ever think or ponder, what a great cost Ray Franz paid because he could not live with the Organization's Spiritual Destruction?

We have members on JWN who return because they miss their family, the cost Raymond Franz jr paid was his financial security, he lost all his pseudo JW family at a age most people would never do, he had more courage and love for YHWH and Jesus Christ, he truly was a faithful slave of Christ we all could do well to mimic, his authentic livings made him someone special. No GB Member has ever left but him, they were too worried of financial ruin, so when I compare most JW Books compared to Ray Franz's Bench Mark, none of them compare. If you can only read two books, COC and ISOCF are the two books JWs need to read, nobody writes and provides the documented facts like Ray did!

jookbeard

I remember reading it, I think it was availiable in my local library at the time, never read Stevenson's works though, one of the few that slipped past.

edmond dantes

I agree compared with Ray Franz's book there is no comparison but at that time in the mid 1960s it was a life raft ok a rickety wooden pallet if you like and I jumped off it a couple of times but it got me to a much larger search and rescue vessel thank God. You have to appreciate that back then there was hardly any effective written expose of the mad cult the Watchtower had an answer for everything in the form of a cheap to produce little book written on cigarette paper pages called Make Shure of All Things they had cornered the market in false propaganda .

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