Went to SAD (page 2)

Designer Stubble

"They are LAZY"?!?!?!?!?

One thing I am not and most active "apostates" and that is lazy. I am far more knowledgeable about and up-to-date on JW teachings that probably 999 out of the 1000 witnesses. I could debate any JW with a seconds notice.

breakfast of champions

You could desdribe me a lot of different ways. Lazy would not be one of them.

Because "apostates" don't want to go door to door spreading their horseshit, they're lazy. Bunch of arrogant assholes.

leaving_quietly

Thought you'd all "enjoy" this, especially the "LAZY" part. The second I said this, I said to myself: "Lazy? Are you kidding me? JWs in general are too lazy to learn what the Bible really says. They'd rather be spoon fed than to take the time to do research, let alone READ the Bible." Of course, they used James 2:26 for this, proving once again that they equate works with meetings and service (yes, the speaker said "Jehovah's works of meetings and the ministry".)

As far as drawing away from God = losing affection for the brothers and sisters . . . Who says "apostates" lose affection? Personally, I had a great time catching up with old friends. No affection loss for me.

Oubliette

Reading the Bible "must be more than an intellectual experience"

How can it be "more than an intellectual experience," when it currently isn't that at all. C'mon, JWs are only allowed to believe the Bible says what the WTBTS says it says. No intellect involved. Independent thought is not only not wanted, it is actively discouraged.

"Satan presents himself as the final voice of authority: 'do things my way'"

"Do things my way." Isn't this the same approach the the GB uses? Just replace "my" with "our" and it's exactly the same.

I'm just saying' is all!

DesirousOfChange

"Satan presents himself as the final voice of authority: 'do things my way'"

OUBLIETTE: "Do things my way." Isn't this the same approach the the GB uses? Just replace "my" with "our" and it's exactly the same.

I'm just saying' is all!

Oubliette, you forgot to add: ". . . whether these appear practical or sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not." [Nov 15, 2013 WT pg 20 par 17]

Doc

NVR2L8

JWs are so lazy they need a book that does all the reasoning on the Scriptures for them!

LisaRose

You are not allowed to wonder if the big A might not be anytime soon, yet the Watchtower has been incorrectly saying it was going to be soon for a hundred years +, and haven't been right once, and that's perfectly fine.

Right.

AlphaMan

You are not allowed to wonder if the big A might not be anytime soon, yet the Watchtower has been incorrectly saying it was going to be soon for a hundred years +, and haven't been right once, and that's perfectly fine.

LisaRose......very well reasoned. Isn't the Watchtower's instilled fear & control over the JW's ridiculous?

Do research in WT sanctioned places: WT Library CD, Online Library, Appendices in back ot RNWT

Leaving Quietly......looks like the U.N. Library is now off the approved WT sanctioned list for reseach.

Oubliette

DOC, you're right. I DID forget that. Thanks for straightening me out!!!

WTWizard

They are lazy, or they don't feel like wasting all their time? Why should I be called on to fight, with no reward for myself? Field circus imposes a lot on people, as they are expected to give up all their time doing joke-hova's work which that thing is more capable of doing (and maybe ought to ask who is really lazy, the people that do not feel like wasting their time while they have other things to do, or the loafer at the top that orders people to do more while it doesn't lift a finger to help).

Note that this is exactly what went on in Communist Russia during the early 1030s! There, workers were forced to work for the communist government for nothing, much as field circus is today, and were hounded to do more. Those at the top--Stalin--did nothing to help. And they bash Adolf Hitler, who was right out in the battlefield fighting for his country? Stalin did nothing but bark orders to everyone, threatening with Siberia (equivalent to our disfellowshipping) if they didn't perform. Of course, just as the jokehovians still in field circus do today, those farmers under Stalin dogged their assignments.

They are claiming Satan orders people around? As if joke-hova doesn't? With joke-hova, you are expected to do things its way. Field circus on its terms. Throw away whatever it deems objectionable. Hate whatever that thing hates--humanity. With Satan, the worst He will do is turn His back on you--no ordering people around, no hounding and pushing, and no threatening with destruction. It is joke-hova's side (its filthy angels) that do the damning work and punish people, preventing them from realizing fulfillment. And without Satan, the angels and joke-hova are capable of preventing one from realizing any potential at all. No romance, money, or fun. Just drudgery. Without Satan in the world, we would all be under full communism.

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