When does the shunning start...I'm confused...

by TheApostleAK 14 Replies latest jw friends

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  TheApostleAK

  I don't know what the hell is going on over here but since I DA'd myself only half the JW's shun me......I was told by a JW over the phone (a lot of JWs still phone me) that the elders have gone up to everyone in the cong to personally to say i'm DA'd (as opposed to an announcement from the platform), yet when I walk into the hall for meetings people still greet me. I think they do it just to piss the elders off.....

  Also, as some of you know my literature/magazine order was cancelled by the elders, I got in contact with an old friend in another congregation (a ex-pioneer who got DF'd yet I still visited him when he was DF'd...reinstated a while back) and he now gets me the magazines even though I told him i'm DA'd. He said he could care if i was a JW or not.

  What the hell is going on???????????

  From AK
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  Mazza

  AK, I think it all depends on where you are and what the local people are like. After I'd been disfed I came to live in HOng Kong and just afterwards my father had a massive heart attack back in Tassie. I called on Bethel in Hong Kong and asked to see the Branch O. He was charming and told me it was lovely my wanting to visit my father and that he couldn't see a problem with it.

  Basically, all the shunning politics had passed him by. It hadn't hit China and he didn't understand any of it. He gave me his gut reaction - his blessing to go visit my dad.

  Later I was called up the Branch O. again over wanting to visit my parents, so he asked me to put my thoughts down on paper. He sent it to Sydney and Sydney sent it to my idiot brother in law - who has delusions of granduer - and is a PO in Hobart. Eventually the Branch O. was told how to treat me and all his natural born kindness was withdrawn and he danced the Society's tune.

  In your case, be patient. They will catch on eventually. Some of them will be taken aside and told to be shitty to you. And they will do as they are told. Anyway why did you DA yourself if you still wanna go to meetings. Do you like having pain inflicted on

  Marilyn
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  simplesally

  I thought that you could still get literature if you were df'd or da'd.

  But why in the heck are going to meetings if you DA'd yourself?
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  Elsewhere

  There are a lot of "sheep" in the bOrg and need to be told what to do and when.

  The same thing happened to me. There were a few who knew how to treat me, but there were many more who did not. After I appeared at the KH for the funeral of my aunt (5 min for my aunt + 40 min WTS Infomercial) I freely walked around the hall talking to people, and they talked to me. It wasn't until afterward that they all got a scolding from the elders.

  "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
  Believe in yourself, not mythology.
  <x ><
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  Will Power

  How about:
  they talk to you to show everyone that they don't shun and don't talk to you to show that they love you.

  OR
  if you say something to someone that scratches the doubt itch they stay away in case you turn out to be right.
  Which would mean that the ones that talk to you are probably stronger in the "troof" which is a contradiction because then they should be the ones "politely" shunning because all out snub is for DFers right?

  Just what an outsider sees.
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  TheOldHippie

  You can get the literature you want no matter what is your "position", my friend. And if someone tries to not give it to you, you can have him look it up a Question box in KM.
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  plmkrzy

  sally asked

  But why in the heck are going to meetings if you DA'd yourself?

  uh...yeah? I was curious too.

  whats wrong with this picture?[8>]
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  blondie

  OldHippie, I think it was posted on another of ApostateAK's threads about getting literature.

  But, I was wondering is a DAing official if it is not announced from the platform? Never heard of DAing someone behind the scenes. Did I miss something posted here?

  Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry page 151

  So if a person who is a Christian chooses to join those who are disapproved by God, it would be fitting for the congregation to acknowledge by a brief announcement that he has disassociated himself and is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Such a person would be viewed in the same way as a disfellowshipped person.

  w84 7/1 31 Questions From Readers ***
  

  Or, as mentioned in John 6:66, occasionally a Witness on his own initiative will decide to leave the way of truth. He may even make known his decision after the committee begins to look into his wrongdoing. He may inform them in writing, or state before witnesses, that he wants to disassociate himself from the congregation and not be known as a Witness. Then it will no longer be necessary for the elders to continue their investigation. However, the elders would then make a brief announcement of his disassociation so that the congregation will know that he “went out from us.” (1 John 2:19) They then will adhere to the inspired injunction ‘not to receive such a one into their homes or say a greeting to him, so as not to become sharers in his wicked works.’—2 John 10, 11.
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  ozziepost

  You can get the literature you want no matter what is your "position", my friend. And if someone tries to not give it to you, you can have him look it up a Question box in KM.

  That's the official position but it doesn't seem to apply here downunder. I know of several DF/DA ex-elders who are unable to get the magazines, even though, like myself, they've got paid-up subscriptions. They just stop coming.

  Cheers,
  Ozzie

  "If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

  
  - Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress
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  ozziepost

  AK old mate, I don't know whether I should be worried for you or simply applaud your bottle. As it stands, I think that sally has a darn good point:
  

  But why in the heck are going to meetings if you DA'd yourself?

  You sure are an interesting character! Wanna come to a bbq?

  Cheers,
  Ozzie

  "If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

  
  - Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress