What is the main "idea" of the bible?

by KateWild 71 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Bugbear
    Bugbear

    Phizzy!

    You say quote: It is interesting to study the books in this way, we have very little else that has survived from most of the times that the books were written in.

    I don’t agree with that. Although the library in Alexandria has been burnt a couple of times (in war), we still have a large amount of papyrus scriptures from the old Greeks, and much above that newly found clayplates/cyliders scrolls, that are much much older than our present bible transcriptions. So for instance we can read Assurbanibals Library, in ORIGINAL – not transcriptions. And translated transcriptions of transcriptions a.s.f.

    The thing is that bible textures has been sorted and selected, translated, by many evil men (Athanastasius for instance), The clay plates are still intact and in original. We can translate them and order them in a timeframe, that is far more old then the Bible.

    But the texts on these clay plates, its very similar to the thoughts you will find in the Bible. You will find stories about the great kings that reined in that or that time, which good he preferred to warship, the flood that god punished us with.

    So the obvious conclusions for those who have been interested in the Bible is that the Bible is not more wholly then for instance Homeros the Illiade and Odysse, or Assurbanibals Library.

    It is just more a coincidence that just these letters where taken very serious and keep by antique old mind trapped men as “the word of god”. This is also why the bible contains so many contradictions. Take a look att evilbible.com for instance

    Bugbear

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    What do you think the idea of the bible is?

    Convert or die.

  • Laika
    Laika

    As JWs we were often told what the theme of the bible is, we were taught that it was the promised seed.

    Not exactly the point of your topic but is this what the Society has said? Just interested because I don't remember hearing that.

    I agree there's no one theme to scripture, but generally I think I would say the main one is about how God deals with 'evil' in the world. (But that's not to say there is only one definition of 'evil' in there either!?)

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    I have come to conclude that the Bible can be interpreted within 4 very different frameworks, with very different outcomes.

    Spiritual versus religious versus atheist versus agnostic.

    When using a spiritual approach or framework this is what has emerged for me:

    There is a protracted legal custody battle underway between our heavenly father (the God of Abraham) and our evil stepfather (the god of religion).

    Our heavenly father has paid a ransom to get us back from our evil stepfather.

    The details are hidden in plain sight throughout scripture in the form of a message "known" as the gospel, the Good News, the evangel, the good message, glad tidings, and the sacred secret.

    A key aspect of this message is about setting us free from (religious and other forms of) control.

    The Watchtower's message in contrast is about establishing the very control the gospel was designed to eradicate.

    In particular that of a (spiritually blind, bureaucratic and authoritarian) ruling religious clergy class over a laity class.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Bugbear, I do agree with you, and I really did not say what I meant to say in that bit you quote, what I meant to say was that the Bible is readily available to the common man in his own tongue and with many translations and commentaries to choose from, so study of it is a doddle compared with most of the other ancient texts.

    There are a good number of exceptions to that too of course, a number of texts have received great attention, The Epic of Gilgamesh for one.

    I think personally it is worth the effort to look at the not so accessable ones too, often only commented on in expensive academic literature, but if one has the interest, a fascinating area of study.

    Illuminating too, as the differences between such works and what should be a unique work according to Bible believers, are often small.

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    I enjoyed your post aquafrenta.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Our heavenly father has paid a ransom to get us back from our evil stepfather.

    What a whimp of a father.

  • Jeannette
    Jeannette

    fiddler-----don't insult Hitler. This "Jehovah", of the Bible, (if that is his real name), is more akin to what a vicious Devil would do----then tell everybody he is so marvelous and good and kind and patient and loving. One just has to read the first few book of the Old Testament with a critical eye. What kind of God kills suckling babies!! Alright-has them killed.

  • designs
    designs

    Love me or else.

  • Ucantnome
    Ucantnome

    i thought it was to tell us God's plan of the ages.

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