Do they pay taxes?

by Valis 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • Valis
    Valis

    This was partially started and mentioned by Fark in a thread unrelated to the subject, but in case there are any out there that think the WT pays taxes on their properties, please see the following URL.

    http://nycserv.nyclink.org/nycproperty/statements/atb/jsp/stmtassessatb.jsp?statementId=35485030

    I want a religious dormitory!!!! I can see it now, two apostate sisters to every bed...hot and cold running beer...anointments for everyone!!

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Valis: The site link you posted takes me to a search page for tax evasion. I tired "Watchtower" and "Watchtower" and "Jehovah" but nothing came up.

    Notwithstanding, the Watchtower Society does not pay taxes in New York City that I am aware of, because all their property there is dedicated eclsusively to religious uses.

    The Hotel at Paterson, NY is rated commercial as part of a deal cut to get the land and building permits for their University. The Hotel DOES pay property taxes in its county of record. The Hotel is owner by an off name Limited Partnership ... I have the details if you need to know more.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Sounds good. No more taxes for apostates! We can't call our religion 'apostatism', though. We would have to get a cooler name for our religiodorm/lodge.

    SS

  • Valis
    Valis

    Well hell!!! The other option is to go to this address and fill in 25 Columbia Heights. It should bring up the report.

    http://webapps.nyc.gov:8084/CICS/fin1/find001I

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • WildHorses
    WildHorses

    http://nycserv.nyclink.org/nycproperty/statements/asr/jsp/stmtassessasr.jsp?statementId=42484279

    TENTATIVE ASSESSMENT ROLL 2002-2003 | City of New York
    Taxable Status Date: January 5, 2002

    EXPLANATION OF ASSESSMENT ROLL
    View 2001 FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLL

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Parcel Information
    Previous BBL Next BBL
    Owner Name: Borough:
    Block:
    Lot:

    BROOKLYN
    204
    1

    WATCHTOWER BIBLE & TR
    Property Address and Zip Code:
    29 COLUMBIA HEIGHTS 11201
    Real Estate Billing Name and Address: Tax Class: 4
    WATCHTOWER C/O REAL PROP
    900 RED MILLS RD
    WALLKILL NY 12589
    Building Class: O9 Codes


    Land Information
    Lot Size Irregular Corner
    92.42FT X 335.92FT IRREG CR


    Building Information Number of Buildings Building Size Extension Stories
    1 335.00FT X 92.00FT 13


    Assessment Information
    Description Land Total
    ESTIMATED MARKET VALUE 25,600,000
    ACTUAL AV 1,800,000 11,520,000
    ACTUAL EX AV 1,800,000 11,520,000
    TRANS AV 1,584,000 10,827,000
    TRANS EX AV 1,584,000 10,827,000


    Taxable/Billable Assessed Value
    Assessed Value

    SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENTS, YOUR 2002/03 TAXES WILL BE BASED ON 0


    Exemption Information
    # Code Description Exempt Value
    1 1023-01 (25120) RELIGIOUS-DORMITORY 11,520,000

    Property is assessed at the following uniform percentages of full market value, unless limited to a lesser amount by law:
    Class 1 - 8% Class 2 - 45% Class 3 - 45% Class 4 - 45%

    ANNUAL REAL ESTATE TAX STATEMENT | Tax Year 2001 - 2002

    THIS IS NOT A BILL AND IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY Disclaimer


    Owner: WATCHTOWER BIBLE & T Property Address: 29 COLUMBIA HEIGHTS

    Real Estate Billing Address:
    WATCHTOWER C/O REAL PROPERTY O Borough: BROOKLYN
    900 RED MILLS RD Block: 204
    WALLKILL NY 12589-3220 Lot: 1
    Tax Class: 4


    Property Type: OFFICE BUILD_MISCELANEOUS

    Calculation of Charge
    Description

    ASSESSED VALUE 10,539,000

    RELIGIOUS-DORMITORY -10,539,000

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    TAXABLE VALUE
    0

    X 9.768% (TAX RATE)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    REAL ESTATE GENERAL TAX 0.00

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ** TOTAL TAX DUE ** 0.00


    Property Tax Information
    Description Amount

    1ST HALF 07/01/01 - 12/31/01
    TOTAL TAX 0.00

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    AMOUNT DUE 07/01/01 .00


    2ND HALF 01/01/02 - 06/30/02
    TOTAL TAX 0.00

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    AMOUNT DUE 01/01/02 .00


    FULL YR 07/01/01 - 06/30/02

    ANNUAL AMOUNT DUE 0.00

    DISCOUNT AVAILABLE IF PAID BY 07/01/01, PAY .00


    Copyright © 2000 The City of New York

    I don't want someone in my life I can live with. I want someone in my life I can't live without.
  • Had Enough
    Had Enough

    Amazing

    Am I missing something here...the WTS actually pays taxes on the Patterson hotel bldg????

    You say the hotel "is rated commercial as part of a deal cut to get the land and building permits for their University"???

    That must have been some "sweet deal" if they agreed to the commercial rating and pay taxes on it instead of the rating of "religious" and be tax exempt!!!

    Had Enough

    "Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
    Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
    ...Margaret Mead

  • belbab
    belbab

    Can someone look up all the factory buildings, I don't know the addresses. Is 117 Adams Street one of them?

    belbab

  • belbab
    belbab

    I entered 117 Adams street and got the property for 64 Prospect Street. Designated as a industrial, factory,

    then assessed as religious dormitory, ZERO TAXES.

    Bathory, you have been leading us down the garden path.

    Belbab

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Had Enough,

    : Am I missing something here...the WTS actually pays taxes on the Patterson hotel bldg????

    : You say the hotel "is rated commercial as part of a deal cut to get the land and building permits for their University"???

    : That must have been some "sweet deal" if they agreed to the commercial rating and pay taxes on it instead of the rating of "religious" and be tax exempt!!!

    Yes, that is all true. The City of Patterson was opposed to the development of the property because they would get no revenues from it. In order to sweeten the deal, the society gave the city a new Fire Truck and agreed to build a hotel and operate it as a business. So the city benefits from the property and hotel taxes on the hotel and the society probably makes a tidy profit from it, too. This is just another example the society being willing to get in bed with Satan's organizations when it will benefit them.

    Farkel

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    OH MY GOD!!!! THEY DID IT!!!

    I've been saying for a long time that Watchtower behavior is going to endanger their tax status. So that's how the government is doing it now.

    Rather than take away their tax exempt status, which could only be done by an incredible amount of litigation, as happened with another religon, the government just won't let religons HAVE any land.

    HOW BRILLIANT HOW DELICIOUSLY BRILLIANT!!!! WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT!!!

    NIMBY...let homeowners know that if a Kingdom Hall goes up on that neighboring peice of property, just how much tax money is going to be lost compared to, say, a home or business. LET homeowners know that because your neighbor JW conducts that annoying bookstudy in his home (with all the Tuesday night parking ruckus) that he can claim tax break on his property, and there's ANOTHER loss of income for the community.

    It wouldn't be so bad if that's all it was, HOWEVER...if there's a fire in that KH, Watchtower gonna call the Fire Department it doesn't want to pay for. If there's an apostate sitting in the Hall, refusing to leave, Watchtoer gonna call the police department it doesn't want to pay for.

    In Watchtower's defense, tho, they still have to pay taxes on their utilities, and they have still have to pay taxes on construction materials, and anything else they buy that isn't edible---or donated.

    BEFORE YOU TRY AND REMOVE THE STICK FROM MY ARSE, REMOVE THE TELEPHONE POLE FROM YOUR OWN ARSE.

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