Stumbling and sex

by larc 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • larc
    larc

    Let me see if I got this right.

    If a brother sees some leg or cleavage, then this will stumble him and he will commit a sex crime and it is not his fault because he was stumbled. It was the sister's fault. Did I get this right?????

    Does this same logic apply to children i.e., the child was cute, so it was their fault?

    It is a very wierd world they live in, and a very distorted reasoning they practice.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Sometimes I stumble on my sex because it is so long.

    "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
    Believe in yourself, not mythology.
    <x ><

  • Xena
    Xena

    Elsewhere

  • Valis
    Valis

    Else...that's not what the smurfs said...hehehe

    Don't forget you could stumble yourself right into sin by thinking about nailing the wholesome sister you were leering at.

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • WildHorses
    WildHorses

    Elsewhere, are you trying to attract some of the women posters?

    From what I have been told. If a man claims he is large in that area, it is usually the opposite.


    I don't want someone in my life I can live with. I want someone in my life I can't live without.
  • larc
    larc

    Hey, guys and gals,

    I am not talking about lust. I am not talking about consensual sex. I am talking about sex crimes.

    This subject has been broached by many people on many threads, with many posts, so I would like to see this subject dealt with in a serious manner, if you don't mind.

    I am asking, why is it the woman's fault when a man commits a sex crime.

    It is like saying it is the bank's fault when someone robs the bank, because the bank stumbled them, because the bank had money there.

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    Larc,

    It's due to thousands of years of social conditioning. Men have treated women as second-class objects, and blaming women for the mistakes of men has been a social problem since the time of Adam.

    In Arabic countries they insist the women are covered from top to toe so that the men are not "stumbled" into lustful thoughts/actions by the beauty of women. Of course, the men don't think of restraining themselves, or realising they have the power to use self-control. It's far easier to blame women for anything that goes wrong.

    Thus, when it comes to sex crimes, it is social influence that says that the woman must have somehow encouraged the rapist. Even if the woman was wearing a burka.

  • Valis
    Valis

    larc forgot to mention that stumbling shouldn't necessarily mean sex crime in her scenario. Even if it was concensual, the sister still gets asked questions like "Panties or thongs?"....which puts a lot more burden of responsibility on her part.

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    If you have a "weaker" woman who is "in subjection to man" make an accusation against a man "who is in the lead" and "a fine upstanding brother", the woman is INHERANTLY suspected of lying and deception.

    "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
    Believe in yourself, not mythology.
    <x ><

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    For this reason, it is VITAL for the "brothers" to determine if she was wearing a thong when the "alleged incident" occurred".

    "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
    Believe in yourself, not mythology.
    <x ><

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