New "Donation Arrangement" is a DECOY!

by The Searcher 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Band on the Run

  I pledge at church. They don't bother you. How will the GB enforce the pledges? I can't see any judge becoming involved. Considering the JW base, people sincerely not being able to pledge is necessary. We all know they don't have the Rockefeller, Bill Gates, Bloomberg crowd. I do think they are considering some way of enforcing it.

  I don't know what a Witness pledge would say. No one I know would pledge at church if it were mandatory. My understanding is that churches use pledge statements as a way to estimate a budget for the year. Tithing is not enforceable. Of course, Jehovah is mad with you is one way to collect the money.

  The mob collects.
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  label licker

  For sure if you want a label, you will have to pay your way. That's probably why in our hall they made a twenty-five year old an elder. He just finished becoming a millwright and his wife has her own hairdressing salon. Both came back into the religion five years ago after being df'd. I can see more divisions and contentions coming with the gb's new doctrinal schemes. They are so devious and definitely a tool of Satan's.
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  Juan Viejo2

  Another reason not to be an elder:

  You know that if the pot comes up short, that the COBOE won't want to have to answer to the CO for consistent shortages. So the elders will be expected to dig into their own pockets to make up the difference.

  Remember all that spare money held in congregation rainy day bank accounts? All that spare cash is now sent to the WT HQ to be held in reserve for when the local congregations need it. Yeah, right. How many BOEs will dare to ask for their money back?

  JV
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I commented on this on another thread. You are right, Searcher. Of course, many thought this idea was too 'out there' to be plausible, but as you so aptly observe, it is almost inevitably the way it must go.

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/278796/7/Is-this-new-donation-arrangement-for-real#.U08gHI3n_Sc

  I predict this is how it will go:

  1. WT will direct debit a JWs bank account every month for the "donation"

  2. If a JW pays by check, the Accounts Servant (AS) will compare the check amount to the amount pledged to verify if the amounts match.

  3. If a JW pays by cash, they'll "donate" directly to the Accounts Servant and be given a receipt. The AS will note the cash "donation" on his congregation's "Who Gave What to WT This Month" log.

  4. JWs will pay by credit card. I predict soon that ATM terminals will be located in each Kingdom Hall. Or, the WT will simply direct-charge the JWs CC every month.

  In short, there will no way to skirt the system. If a JW is not donating, the local Monkey's Asses (elders) will know it, and that person will most assuredly be receiving as many "shepherding calls" as necessary to get them on the program. JWs who refuse to participate, or cannot because they are too poor, will be put on a "Spritually Weak" list and be shunned as "bad association". Any JW not "donating" will be viewed as opposing Jehovah™ and not actively supporting Kingdom Interests™.

  And, as has been noted, the expected "donations" will start small, but escalate exponentially. Just like Assembly Halls, the expected donations will become absurd and burdensome. How will JWs be convinced to go along with it? Fortunately for WT, there are a lot of "Emeth" types in the Org.
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  twice shy

  Interesting
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  snare&racket

  I agree buddy, I think you are right.....there will be a direct debit arrangement by 2016.
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  OUTLAW

  factfinder is short on facts.Pledges are ANONYMOUS! NO ONE can be held to ANYTHING!.....awatcher

  So if you hand someone a piece of paper with a Pledge on it..

  They`ll never know it was you who handed them the pledge..

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  You`ll never get my Money Jehovah!..........................Thats My Money!..

  ........No one Knows who I Am!!.....................................You JW SOB!!..

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  ............................................................................................................................ ...OUTLAW
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  What is Truth?

  Quite likely, good observations Searcher.

  LOL thanks outlaw!
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  kaik

  Shirley, I heard from my parents, relatives, and sibling that demand for donations is turning into outright extorsion. People who do not donate enough are considered spiritually weak. I also being told that congregation are asked to provide services for the DO when he is on visit, including cooking, laundry, accommodation, and travel. This causes more irritation than flip-flopping doctrines.
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  The Searcher

  @ A WATCHER - you're right, pledges ARE anonymous - until you're forced to pay via your bank account. Then the recipients know exactly who's paying, who's not paying enough, and who are not paying anything!

  The Org must and will eliminate the problem of anonymity, so by creating a 'false flag' scenario, (of non-payers) a letter from the G.B. directing the flock to pay via their bank accounts will be greeted with "that makes sense" by those who said the same thing about all the changes in the July 15 2012 Study Watchtower.

  The sheep are being prepared - some for fleecing, others for slaughter! The Org's chariot is moving very rapidly now!