Post Dateline Defense (page 3)

bluesapphire

But I remember well being a classic victim of this disease - dipfuckism - myself.

When all these things were going wrong before my own eyes. When the elders refused to address the molestation of my daughter and possibly another child in our hall. When I was told that a witness should "never, ever, ever say the word 'molest' with regard to any brother" Yes, even then I would say to myself, BUT IT'S STILL THE TRUTH IT'S STILL THE TRUTH IT'S STILL THE TRUTH.

And look at me now!!!!

There is always hope and there is a cure for dipfuckism, Farkel.

Will Power

blue
Something along the lines of giving out tracts on 9/11 at ground zero!!

Yadira Angelini

And.... I'd like to add "mis dos".

In my opinion, the easiest way the Catholic Church has have it handling the scandal, it's the fact that when the Cardinals were summoned to Rome, the media gave us plenty of information of who were each and everyone of them: names, where they were coming from, their past assignments and the 'whole enchilada'.

It is a shame BIG TIME the GB's 'SECRETIVENESS' regarding names and stuff... wouldn't be a dream if the media could pin point at each member? After all, they are the responsible ones. Am I in a right track?

Remember, I'm not an expert on Jeohavaism. :-) please, don't laugh if I said something stupid. I think about that all the time... I know you must know their names, but aren't you a minority? or would Dateline have that information? Just like Cardinal Law, Cardinal Mahony, and so forth the rest of the Cardinals? I would like to see the skeletons out of their caves; I picture them like TWELVE Osama bin Ladens. To me, they are witches. I don't want to offend anyone, but the WT stuff crip the hell out me. ( I don't know how to spell 'crip') The GB are weird and I can't imagine how in the world the bethelites deal with them? I imagine Bethel like a ghost place. But I have to admit I'm afraid, so afraid... for instance, when I have gone to my daughter's KH.. and another one I visited with her when we went to Seattle, I got scare of people's faces.. maybe it's the lighting that does not help; or the lack of windows on the hall, who knows? That is why I beg you, do not laugh at me tonight.

On the other hand, the ones I'm acustomed to see around my daughter and I have learned to love as my friends... I don't see them like that at all... but the others look really weird to me at the KH. It may be my problem, but I'm been honest here. Love,

Yadira

dungbeetle

(((( blue and yadira ))))

BEFORE YOU TRY AND REMOVE THE STICK FROM MY ARSE, REMOVE THE TELEPHONE POLE FROM YOUR OWN ARSE.

MikeMusto

Bendr is right,

The empire is weak, there is a rebel alliance who will
form with the help of the supreme jedi's. The senators
will unveil the motive of the chancellor and the Dark
side will not prevail

..whatever

You Know

I wouldn't get too downcast already Metadrone, surely the apostates will pick up a few recruits who get stumbled over the issue. / You Know

plmkrzy

(((Yadira Angelini)))

Thats not stupid and anyone that would laugh at you for saying that would be the one with the problem.
I still get that feeling with certain ones if i bump into them. It is just an uncomfortable feeling and perfectly natural under the circumstances. After all what do most of us do here anyway if it isn't looking at people now in a way we didn't at one time. Same people but it isn't possible to see them as the same people. Even the ones we like we can't help but look at them different.
Like film that is over-exposed.

Life sucks...get a helmet

david_10

I swear, I've got to stop reading Farkel's posts: "Dipfuck" is emerging as the most common word in my vocabulary. It's not always socially appropriate, but it slips out before I can think about it.

Anyway, I have to agree with Bendrr on this, at least to some extent. The abuse issue is the dirty little secret that plagues every congregation that I've ever been in or had any knowledge of. As a 13 year old boy, I was abused by a very prominent elder. Both of my brothers were abused by brothers in the congregation. Every kid that I grew up with was victimized in one way or another. And this was just in one congregation; multiply that by the 30,000 worldwide, and the situation is monstrous. Usually,the parents eventually found out and the perpetrator was run off and, in a couple of cases that come to mind, was disfellowshipped. But other than that, it was always swept under the rug. Only in one very sad case involving an 8 year old girl, was the abuser (an elder) taken to the authorities and given jail time. In the case of the elder who molested me, nothing was done to him until around 8 years later when he was disfellowshipped for making homosexual advances on his 19 year old son-in-law. How sick is that?

And now, it looks like the dam is breaking and they can't stand there with their fingers in the cracks for much longer. People who were abused as children and assured that it was only a fluke are going to see just how used they were. Parents of victims: ditto. People are going to see that the "spiritual paradise" is a cesspool, and they are going to have face this. Sure, there are a lot of hard core life-ers who will never allow themselves to think (and one of those is the aforementioned 8 year old girl, now a beautiful 40-something woman, never married, wonder why), but many are going to be forced to come to grips with a huge problem that, percentage-wise, probably exceeds what goes on in the Catholic church. I think that the Dateline program is going to have huge effect and very far-reaching consequences for the Society. A lot more court cases, with the Society even losing or settling a few that they might have been able to salvage. A higher-than-average rate of defections. Elders who are led to believe that they are dealing with isolated cases in their congregations are going to realize that it's a world-wide epidemic . People who are studying are going to walk away. The youth exodus will escalate. Like Bendrr, maybe I'm being a little too optimistic, but I think the Society is going to be dealt a major blow. Time will tell.

David

patio34

Farkel, you said:

Furthermore, there is some excellent evidence yet-to-be-revealed that at least one member of the GB not only knew about the cover-ups, but personally ordered them.

Please keep us posted when that evidence comes to light, okay?

David, Hello and pleased to make your acquaintance. You said:

And now, it looks like the dam is breaking and they can't stand there with their fingers in the cracks for much longer. People who were abused as children and assured that it was only a fluke are going to see just how used they were.

Now that's one aspect of it I hadn't thought of, the victims who haven't come forward yet. They will certainly see that they're not alone and may be brave enough to overcome the elders and prosecute.

Have a great Sunday, y'all!
Pat

Farkel

You Know,

: I wouldn't get too downcast already Metadrone, surely the apostates will pick up a few recruits who get stumbled over the issue.

Yeah. Religions who let adults rape innocent little children while they look the other way tends to cause a little "stumbling" here and there.

It's the ones who do NOT get stumbled (creeps like you) who scare me.

Farkel

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