So how did the 'true God' lose control.
New Noah Film
by Perry 21 Replies latest jw friends
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LisaRose
The God of the bible is petty, jealous, spiteful and vindictive. It's just as well he doesn't exist.
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Crazyguy
I like how god let the angels come down and mate with the woman then have giants as offspring and when all goes to hell the humans are blamed and killed..Truly a loving God....Even the poor animals are wiped out for what the angels did...
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designs
'Scorched earth policy' General Sherman taking directions from the Big Guy in the sky.
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cantleave
It's repellent that anyone would teach this bile to their kids.
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Shanagirl
I think the story found in the Apocryphon of John, where Christ explains to Zebedee the mishap during creation and the birth of evil Yahweh the chief Demon who created humankind. It seems more logical to me than the Bible canon story. The Davies translation is easy to read.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-davies.html
Here are some of the subheadings in the story Jesus tells to john in this book that i find facinating as well as more believable than the Bible story of Creation. In the Apocryphon of John, Jesus speaks of the evil creator god who I believe to be the Jehovah of the Bible Here are some of the parts of this book that sound very familiar. Basically the story of the birth of "jehovah" is of a androgenous divinity who was good and a reflection of the True God Spirit.
A Crisis that Became the World
Without the Invisible Spirit’s consent
Without the knowledge of her partner
She brought it into being.Because she had unconquerable Power
Her thought was not unproductive.
Something imperfect came out of her
Different in appearance from her.Because she had created it without her masculine counterpart
She gave rise to a misshapen being unlike herself.Sophia saw what her desire produced.
It changed into the form of a dragon with a lion’s head
And eyes flashing lightning bolts.
She cast him far from her,
Outside of the realm of the immortal beings
So that they could not see him.[She had created him in ignorance.]
Sophia surrounded him with a brilliant cloud,
Put a throne in the center part of the cloud
So that no one would see it.
[Except for the Holy Spirit called the Mother of the Living]
She named him Yaldabaoth.Yaldabaoth is the chief ruler.
He took great Power (dynamis) from his mother,
Left her, and moved away from his birthplace.
He assumed command,
Created realms for himself
With a brilliant flame that continues to exist even now.The Fashioning of This World
Yaldabaoth modeled his creation
On the pattern of the original realms above him
So that it might be just like the indestructible realms. [Not that he had ever seen the indestructible ones.
Rather, the power in him, deriving from his mother,
made him aware of the pattern of the cosmos above.]When he gazed upon his creation surrounding him
He said to his host of demons
The ones who had come forth out of him:
“I am a jealous God and there is no God but me!{But by doing this he admitted to his demons that there is indeed another God. For, if there were no other God, whom would he possibly be jealous of?]
Humanity Begins
Then came a voice from the highest realms saying:
“The Man exists! And the Son of Man!”Yaldabaoth, chief ruler, heard it
He thought it came from his mother
He did not know the true source of the voice:
The Holy Mother-Father
Perfect Providence
Image of the Invisible
Father of Everything
In whom everything has come to be.The First Man
[This is the one who appeared to them.
He appeared in the form of a human being.]All of the realm of the chief ruler quaked!
The foundations of the abyss moved!He illuminated the waters above the world of matter,
His image shown in those waters.All the demons and the first ruler together gazed up
Toward the underside of the newly shining waters.
Through that light they saw the Image in the waters.Yaldabaoth said to his subordinate demons:
“Let’s create a man according to the image of God
And our own likeness
So that his image will illuminate us.”Each one through another’s Power created aspects of the man;
Each added a characteristic corresponding to the psychic factors
They had seen in the Image above them.
They made a creature of substance
In the likeness of that perfect First Man
And they said, “Let us call him Adam, so that his name will give us the power of light.”Yaldabaoth’s demonic forces envied the man.
Through their united efforts he had come into being
They had given their Power to him.
His understanding was far greater than that of those who had created him.
And greater than that of the Chief Ruler himself.When they realized that he shone with light
And could think better than they could
And was naked of evil,
They took him and cast him down
Into the lowest depths of the material world.Three Plots against Humanity
Yaldabaoth eventually came to regret everything he had created.
He decided to bring a great flood
Upon creation, upon mankind.But the great light of Providence warned Noah.
He preached to all of the children,
The sons of men,
But if they were strangers to him they didn’t listen.[It was not the way Moses said: “they hid in an ark.”
Rather, they hid in a special place,
Not just Noah
but also many other people from the immovable race.
They went into hiding within a cloud of light.]Noah knew his own authority
And that of the light Being who illuminated them
Although the Chief Ruler poured darkness over all the world.The Chief Ruler and his powers plotted a strategy,
To send his demons to human daughters
And make themselves children by them to enjoy.
But they failed.After their failure they made another plan.
They created an artificial spirit
Modeled on the Spirit who descended
So, to impregnate souls by means of this spirit,
The demons changed appearance
to look like the women’s husbands
They filled the women with that spirit of darkness and wickedness.They brought into being
Gold and silver,
Money and coins,
Iron and other metals and all things of this sort.And the people who were attracted were led astray into troubles
And were greatly misled.
And grew old
Experiencing no pleasure,
And died
Finding no truth,
Never knowing the true God.This is the way that they enslaved all of creation
From the foundation of the world until now.[They took some women and produced children out of darkness
And they closed their hearts
And they hardened themselves
in the hardness of their artificial spirit
Until the present day.]Shana
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Crazyguy
is that not very simliar to the Enlil and Enki story from the Sumerian times, brothers but one was bad??
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snare&racket
is this the one where god destroys all the atheists, and only the god fearing bananas are saved?
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Finkelstein
New Noah Film
Did this particular movie go on to show what a bumbling mistake the God of the bible (YHWH) made
by killing so many innocent people all for nothing when mankind eventually returned exactly to its evil ways like
the way things were before the flood ?
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I guess he forgot that the inherent sin of man lived on in Noah and his family from Adam and Eve..
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I guess he didn't read the first book of the bible Genesis.