Now sue their pants off!
'Jehovah's Witness elders who participated in this shameful activity should immediately remove themselves from any position of authority in the church,apologize to victims, ...' Snap Media Statements
by Sol Reform 14 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
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Band on the Run
The problem I see is not a single victim/survivor had any duty to attend a JC. When asked whether abuse was enjoyable, her feet should have propelled her out the door to make phone calls to local media. There are facts not reported. These are women, not teenagers dragged against their will. Churches have a right to discipline and make judgment calls. The solution is easy. Stand up and leave. There are facts behind the facts. I don't trust the reporting source for a single moment.
Rather, than attacking the WT on First Amendment grounds that they will always win, the apostate community should teach and enable such women to be assertive.
NNot every person accused of pedophilia is guilty. I believe a defendant has the right to confront his alleged victim.
My mom babysat for a pedophile. The city decided he made a better parent than her prostitute and heroin addicted mom. As soon as she could talk, she could set boundaries. Once I hugged her with baby talk and she made it abdundantly clear not to do it. It is possible to train women not to be such victims.
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Pistoff
Band, this is a case of 2 girls, years ago, who were abused, and came forward after learning of other victims when they were adults, to accuse the perp in front of the law.
They went through facing their accuser in a WT judicial meeting because it was the only way the WT would even consider tossing the abuser from the hall.
It was when the meeting happened that he grilled them as he did.
They had already faced him in a court of law, where he was NOT allowed to grill them; that court convicted him based on the evidence.
The elders look very bad in this case, no matter how you view it; either they screwed up the first time by not convicting and tossing him, or it looks like they caved and tossed him later.
And asking if they enjoyed it? They show they are firmly in the dark ages, and world class stupid to boot.
Either way, they are grossly incompetent.
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Vidiot
Well, the further we get from October 2013, the clearer it becomes...
...they're drawing a line in the sand over the "two-witness rule" and their application of it.
That never bodes well.
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Sol Reform
Charity Commission investigates Jehovah's Witness congregation in relation to indecent assault case By Sam Burne James, Third Sector Online, 28 May 2014 Charity Commission Manchester New Moston Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses is at the centre of reports that a convicted offender was allowed to question his victims at a public meeting The Charity Commission has opened an operational compliance case into a Manchester-based Jehovah’s Witness congregation following concerns about how it protects vulnerable beneficiaries.
The commission said it was in discussions with Manchester New Moston Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses after reports in the Manchester Evening News that a congregation member, Jonathan Rose, who was recently released from prison after serving nine months for the indecent of assault of two girls, was allowed to question his victims in front of congregation elders. The victims were required to recount the abuse at the meeting in order to have Rose barred from the church, the paper says.
A spokeswoman for the commission said: "The commission has ongoing serious concerns about the Manchester New Moston Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses in connection with its policies and procedures for the protection of vulnerable beneficiaries. We are engaging with the charity’s trustees about our concerns. We cannot comment further at this stage." The commission added that it had opened an operational compliance case into the charity.
The charity has been registered with the commission since 1997 and had income of between £5,000 and £10,000 for each of the past five years.
A spokesman for the Jehovah’s Witnesses told Third Sector while it did allow victims and their perpetrators to meet, this would only happen with the victim's consent and the meetings would be held in private.
He added in a statement: "When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of serious wrongdoing, the matter is investigated. If a victim wishes to assist by providing details, this can be done in person or in writing.
Victims are never forced to attend a meeting or confront an alleged perpetrator of child abuse, and indeed we have no power to do so.
Any meetings are held in private and are not public. When child safeguarding is concerned, these procedures are in place to help protect children."
He said he was unable to comment further on the Manchester New Moston Congregation case, but said that Rose is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.