NOW I've done it! More engagement news...

by Billygoat 16 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Billygoat
    Billygoat

    As most of you know, Neil and I have been engaged for about two weeks now. I was surprised and thrilled to hear him ask and am looking forward to spending my life with my best friend. For those of you who don't know Neil personally, he's really the best thing to ever happen to me!

    My Uncle Darrell, whom I'm very close to, was the first to hear about it. Darrell and I are closer than my parents and I ever were - I actually call him my Uncle Dad. Neil spoke with him to ask for my hand in marriage, not my father. Of course, Darrell knows firsthand that Neil is a wonderful and loving person and approved of the engagement wholeheartedly! I've also asked him to give me away at the wedding, which he has agreed to do.

    Well, I've been agonizing over the last two weeks about how I'm going to break the engagement news to my JW parents. I know they won't approve and I'm pretty sure they won't come to the wedding. Well, after lots of prayer and guidance from friends and Neil's family, I finally broke the news to my father tonight.

    I called him after church on my way to Neil's family's house. (We were about to watch the season finale of X-Files together! Woohoo!) I told him the news, bracing myself to be railed about "screwing up another man's life". (For those that don't know, this will be my second marriage.) But instead, I got a "Wow. You're getting married?" It was in a tone of surprise, but not disappointed surprise.

    "Yes, dad. He asked me and I said yes. The wedding will be in October. I've done a lot of praying about it and really want you and Mom to be there."

    Silence, but I continue:

    "I know you won't come unless there are some things about the ceremony that I adhere to. So I'd like to find out from you what those stipulations might be."

    (I had fully anticipated that they wouldn't come if the wedding were in a church, which it probably won't be anyway. I've also considered they may not come if the ceremony is performed by a minister. So plans to have a non-church wedding with a justice of the peace has been carefully considered by Neil and I.)

    So after another "Wow." Dad begins by saying: "I know you understand that Mom and I can't come if you get married in a church."

    I said, "I know. I've understood that from the beginning."

    "If it were in a Kingdom Hall it wouldn't be an issue, but we both know that's probably not going to happen." He's not his usual sarcastic self, he seems very thoughtful and reflective in his words, yet kind.

    I smile and think, "Wow. This is going WAY better than I planned."

    I asked:

    "Do you have any suggestions or requirements for how the ceremony is performed?"

    I can hear some people talking to Dad in the background, knowing he was getting pulled away. I had called him on his cell and could tell he wasn't at home, although I don't exactly know what he was doing or whom he was with. He was busy telling them he was on the phone with his daughter. But when he got back on the phone he said:

    "Honey, I'm sorry I can't talk now, but this is something I really need to think about okay? Can I call you back about this later?"

    I said it was fine, but asked when I might hear from him again.

    He said, "I'll call you no later than tomorrow."

    I said okay. We said our good-byes and hung up.

    I know some of you are thinking this conversation is pretty bland and boring. But for those of you that know my history with my father, this conversation is a pretty awesome breakthrough. It's been months, perhaps even years since I've talked to my father without animosity in the conversation. Usually, it's him being sarcastic and me being snotty back and then both of us hanging up - me usually in tears and depressed for a month or two.

    So all of this to say, "Yay! Had a decent civil convo with Dad today! Woohoo!" LOL! But I hope they do soften enough to come to my wedding. I would love for them to meet their SIL and his family. I think it would make a great impression on them to realize that us pagan Christendom Christians really don't have hooves and horns. Haha!

    Anyways, thanks for indulging me...I'll keep you updated once (if?) I hear back from him!

    Love,
    Andi

    PS: Thank you for your well-wishes and cyber love. Y'all are becoming the family I lost so long ago!

  • BeautifulGarbage
    BeautifulGarbage

    Hi Andi,

    As someone who has a very complicated, and mostly, acromonious relationship with my Father, I know that "small" things such as a civil conversation means alot. I hope that your parents are able to attend your wedding without you and Neil having to compromise too much the type of ceremony that the both of you want.

    Hopefully, phone calls such as the one today, will continue.

    Andee

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Hey BillyGoat,Oh No!Do`es this mean your not going to dump Neil?(LOL!)Congratulations to you both!You are a sweet lady,I`m sure you would pick a good man.When you showed us your pictures a while back,I thought you made a nice couple.You both looked real happy,I wish you the best...OUTLAW

  • simplesally
    simplesally

    Its just one of those things, children want their parents to love them, so when they are upset with us or peace is lacking, it upsets us terribly.

    I am happy for you that things went smooth today! Wishing you the best tomorrow with your Dad.

  • Preston
    Preston

    OMG Andi!!!! Who knows, maybe you're father will show up to see her daughter get married...

  • MegaDude
    MegaDude

    Andi a/k/a Mrs. Mozzer4life,

    Pretty cool of you to offer an olive branch like you did to your dad on you and Neil's most special day. If I was getting married, can't say I would want any Jehovah's Witnesses there, family or not. I don't have much use for relatives that shun me. Wow, you're offering to tailor the ceremony if he will show up. That can't help but show him how much you want him there. How can he not be touched by that?If he shows up, it might be a step towards healing your relationship, but if not, you certainly took the high road in even bothering to invite him. That says a lot of good about you.

  • flower
    flower

    I'm soo happy for you Andee that you are so excited. I hope that they do come to the wedding and that you dont have to change too much of what the two of you want in your ceremony to please them.
    ((((hugs))))

    flower

  • sadiejive
    sadiejive

    Andi,
    Congrats...and I hope everything works out great for ya!!

    sadie

  • Mimilly
    Mimilly

    Andi, I'm thrilled for you. I hope the good conversations with your father continue. I also think it's grand that you have an Uncle Dad.

    keeping my fingers crossed for you... (and keep us posted eh?)
    Mimilly

  • Billygoat
    Billygoat

    I'm just curious: Would anyone have any links that would have the Society's view on going to a DFed person's wedding? If Dad tells me "no", I would love to show him a Watchtower article or two. Fight fire with fire, right?

    Andee,

    Interesting point you made...

    I hope that your parents are able to attend your wedding without you and Neil having to compromise too much the type of ceremony that the both of you want.
    I'm really working hard not to focus TOO much on the day. Did that the first time: Beautiful wedding, crappy marriage. I'm trying to remember that the wedding day is to be special, but it's the 20K or so days after that that really matter. It's easier said than done since putting on a wedding is a ton of work, but I'm getting better about it.

    That basically to say that as long as Neil is there and there is someone to officiate, I plan on having a wonderful ceremony! Whether JW parents are present or not.

    Thanks everyone!

    Andi

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