Atheists lose latest legal fight 'In God WE TRUST".

by jam 34 Replies latest jw friends

  • galaxie
    galaxie

    Hi lois;...it's on the Clydesdale bank 20 pounds sterling. Equivalent to approx 33 dollars US.

  • DJS
    DJS

    The atheist activists are just that, activists. As noted on the gay/SCOTUS issue, acitivists are the tip of the spear for all movements. Most atheists don't give these types of issues any thought whatsoever. Live and let live. Leave it on the $ or take it off, it doesn't matter to me. If you do a bit of research you will find that most of those things occurred as over-zealous religious responses to social issus of the time. THAT is what bothers me.

    So Darwin is on the British note, huh? Way freaking cool. Thanks Cofty.

  • Pacopoolio
    Pacopoolio

    Ugh, pet peeve.

    Agnostic deals with TYPE of belief. It is NOT an answer to the question "do you actively believe in a God or gods." The answer is "yes" (theist) or "no" (atheist). When asked how sure of that are you, you can say completely (gnostic) or not sure/I don't know/I don't know if I can prove it (agnostic).

  • cofty
    cofty

    Pet peeve - semantics.

    Agnostic is a word we could safely dispose of and lose nothing.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Uh huh.

    Same for anti-theist.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Same for anti-theist

    Why?

    An atheist doesn't believe in god.

    An anti-theist thinks that theism is a bad thing that deserves to be opposed.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Signifying nothing ...

  • Pacopoolio
    Pacopoolio

    The issue with "agnostic" is that theists have done such a good job at demonizing the word "atheist" as "angry anti-god religion" that moderate people generally label themselves agnostic to avoid the label. Even though the word doesn't mean what they think it does, creating a division between people that understand the philosophy and people who don't, and helping to marginalize atheists as extremists in the mind of the layman. If everyone actually labeled themselves what they actually were, it would actually help progress due to not being able to pigeonhole opposite viewpoints quite so much.

  • cofty
    cofty

    If somebody does not believe the claims of theism they are an atheist.

    We don't need a label for "I'm not sure".

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Surely the best argument for removing "In God we trust" from the banknotes is that it is patently untrue ?

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