GODS KINGDOM RULES... MY A**

by OneDayillBeFree 33 Replies latest jw friends

  • WingCommander
    WingCommander

    Loesh actually tried to spin what Judge Rutherford said into something else? Everyone knows Da Judge was speaking about Millions of people living at that moment in time (mainly JW's) who were now in the end times and would walk thru into Paradise. Doesn't matter even if here were speaking about JW's or non-JW's, because guess what? They are all DEAD!! Therefore, he was a false prophet.

    This old geezers are so full of crap. And really, did JW's really need ANOTHER sanitized, whitewashed history and/or rule book? Seriously? Seems like covering their asses is becoming a full-time job instead of preaching about Jesus Kingdom or "The End".

    That's another thing to note: Notice all the feel-good bullsh*t lately.....fancy pamphlets, JW.org, smiling faces, "Time of your life in Atlanta", etc. Yeah, um, where is all the fire and brimstone, screaming people falling into cracks in scenes from the Great Tribulation? That is all left in the 1980's apparently. My nightmare of a childhood. It's all, "Listen, Obey, & be Blessed", now. **GAG** Truly, a different psuedo-religious cult has been born. We are all left gagging in the afterbirth.

    - Wing Commander

  • sir82
    sir82

    Loesch said, " In 1925 the Millions talk was given. Millions now living will never die. The brothers didnt mean millions of JWS. They meant millions of non-Jws being saved at the big A, since they were found worthy. You can check the Proclaimers book." WTH!?!!??! What the hell does that even mean!?!?!?! What's the difference?!?!

    I thought it was highly unusual, that he would even mention it.

    In 1922, the organization was still sticking pretty closely to CTR's teachings (obviously they no longer believed Armageddon would start in 1914!).

    One of Russell's big differences with later JW doctrine was regarding the battle of Armegdeddon. The "old light" taught by CTR was that Armageddon would be fought between God and the "kings and military forces of the earth". There would be many many milions of "innocent" folks who had nothing to do with politics nor the military, who were "sincerely trying to do God's will", who would be spared.

    I.e., Russell's concept of Armageddon was decidedly gentler than Rutherford's later view, still espoused by current JWs, that Jesus will hurl flaming stones at everybody who isn't a JW at Armageddon - men, women, children, babies, everybody.

    I've never heard anyone, much less a GB member, reference a not-commonly-known "old light" doctrine such as this - one that actually is probably more appealing than the "new light" version.

  • clarity
    clarity

    WingCommander......."Truly, a different psuedo-religious cult has been born. We are all left gagging in the afterbirth."

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    Amen !.......(so to speak)

  • johnamos
    johnamos

    Quote Wing Commander- This old geezers are so full of crap. And really, did JW's really need ANOTHER sanitized, whitewashed history and/or rule book? Seriously? Seems like covering their asses is becoming a full-time job instead of preaching about Jesus Kingdom or "The End". - End quote

    Ezekiel 13:1And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 2 “Son of man, prophesy concerning the prophets of Israel who are prophesying, and you must say to those prophesying out of their own heart, ‘Hear the word of Jehovah. 3 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who are walking after their own spirit, when there is nothing that they have seen! 4 Like foxes in the devastated places are what your own prophets have become, O Israel. 5 YOU men will certainly not go up into the gaps, neither will YOU build up a stone wall in behalf of the house of Israel, in order to stand in the battle in the day of Jehovah.” 6 “They have visioned what is untrue and a lying divination, those who are saying, ‘The utterance of Jehovah is,’ when Jehovah himself has not sent them, and they have waited to have a word come true. 7 Is it not an untrue vision that YOU men have visioned, and a lying divination that YOU have said, when saying, ‘The utterance of Jehovah is,’ when I myself have spoken nothing?”’8 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “‘For the reason that YOU men have spoken untruth and YOU have visioned a lie, therefore here I am against YOU,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.” 9 And my hand has come to be against the prophets that are visioning untruth and that are divining a lie. In the intimate group of my people they will not continue on, and in the register of the house of Israel they will not be written, and to the soil of Israel they will not come; and YOU people will have to know that I am the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, 10 for the reason, yes, for the reason that they have led my people astray, saying, “There is peace!” when there is no peace, and there is one that is building a partition wall, but in vain there are those plastering it with whitewash.’11 “Say to those plastering with whitewash that it will fall. A flooding downpour will certainly occur, and YOU, O hailstones, will fall, and a blast of windstorms itself will cause a splitting. 12 And, look! the wall must fall. Will it not be said to YOU men, ‘Where is the coating with which YOU did the plastering?’13“Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘I will also cause a blast of windstorms to burst forth in my rage, and in my anger there will occur a flooding downpour, and in rage there will be hailstones for an extermination. 14 And I will tear down the wall that YOU men have plastered with whitewash and bring it into contact with the earth, and its foundation must be exposed. And she will certainly fall, and YOU must come to an end in the midst of her; and YOU will have to know that I am Jehovah.’15 “‘And I will bring my rage to its finish upon the wall and upon those plastering it with whitewash, and I shall say to YOU men: “The wall is no more, and those plastering it are no more, 16 the prophets of Israel that are prophesying to Jerusalem and that are visioning for her a vision of peace, when there is no peace,”’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.

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