There will NEVER be another World Power. The end is near.

by defender of truth 27 Replies latest social current

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    For those sincerely interested.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/03/world-nothing-fear-us-power-china-economy-democracy

    The world has nothing to fear from the US losing power

    3rd May 2014

    As China looks set to overtake the US as the world's largest economy, a multipolar world can only be good for democracy. The news that China will displace the US as the world's largest economy this year is big news. For economists who follow these measurements, the tectonic shift likely occurred a few years ago. But now the World Bank is making it official, so journalists and others who opine on world affairs will have to take this into account. And if they do so, they will find that this is a very big deal indeed.

    What does it mean? First, the technicalities: the comparison is made on apurchasing power parity (PPP) basis, which means that it takes into account the differing prices in the two countries. So, if a dollar is worth 6.3 renminbi today on the foreign exchange market, it may be that 6.3 renminbi can buy a lot more in China than one dollar can buy in the US. The PPP comparison adjusts for that; that is why China's economy is much bigger than the measure that you have most commonly seen in the media, which simply converts China's GDP to dollars at the official exchange rate.

    The PPP measure is a better comparison for many purposes. For example, take military spending: the money that China needs to build a fighter jet or pay military personnel is a lot less than the equivalent in dollars that the US has to pay for the same goods and services. This means that China has a bigger economy than that of the US, for purposes of military spending. And in a decade, the Chinese economy will most likely be about 60 percent bigger than the US economy.

    President Obama has just returned from a trip to Asia where he was criticised for not being tougher with China. However, Americans may want to consider whether "containing" China with a "pivot" to Asia is an affordable proposition. When the US had an arms race with the Soviet Union, the Soviet economy was maybe one-quarter the size of ours. We have not experienced an arms race with a country whose economy is bigger than ours, and whose economic size advantage is growing rapidly. Are Americans prepared to give up social security or Medicare in order to maintain US military supremacy in Asia? To ask this question is to answer it.

    Fortunately, such an arms race is not necessary. China is a rising power, but the government does not seem to be interested in building an empire. Unlike the US, which has hundreds of military bases throughout the globe, China doesn't have any. The Chinese government seems to be very focused on economic growth; trying to become a developed country as soon as it can. Since China has 1.3 billion people, having an economy the size of the US means that average living standards are less than one-fourth of ours. They have a long way to go to become a rich country.

    Of course, just because an arms race is unnecessary or unwinnable doesn't mean it can't get started. The Washington foreign policy establishment is much accustomed to the authority, prestige, and privilege of being the overwhelmingly dominant power on the planet. And as we saw during the eastward expansion of Nato in the 1990s – now coming back to haunt us in a new cold war with Russia – there are politically powerful military contractors that can also have a voice in US foreign and military policy.

    The American people, according to polling data, are of another point of view. They are largely tired of unnecessary wars and mostly sympathetic to Obama's response to critics while in the Philippines: "Why is it that everybody is so eager to use military force, after we've just gone through a decade of war at enormous cost to our troops and to our budget?" It is arguable that the only reason our government is able to maintain an imperial foreign policy is that so few Americans serve in the military and pay the ultimate price for it.

    Still, there is a powerful ideology of American exceptionalism and a widespread belief that if the US does not run the world, somebody worse – possibly China – will. The fact that the US and its European allies still have more democratic societies with more developed rule of law than most middle-income countries – despite the setbacks of the past decade – reinforces this notion that the world will be worse off if the US loses power and influence.

    But the US lost most of its influence in Latin America over the past 15 years, and the region has done quite well, with a sharp reduction in poverty for the first time in decades. The Washington-based International Monetary Fund has also lost most of its influence over the middle-income countries of the world, and these have also done remarkably better in the 2000s.

    In the 18th century, those who opposed democratic revolutions like that of the United States had dystopian visions of governance without monarchy. So, too, our foreign policy establishment cannot imagine a multipolar world where the US and its allies must negotiate more and give orders less often. But economic trends are making this reality inevitable, and Americans should embrace it. Whatever the internal political systems of the countries whose representation in the international arena will increase, the end result is likely to be more democratic governance at the international level, with a greater rule of international law, fewer wars, and more social and economic progress.

  • DJS
    DJS

    Snare,

    Thanks for that. A vibrant, prosperous China is the best thing for the world. I wish the rest of S. America, Africa and India could follow. Maybe one day.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    But the US lost most of its influence in Latin America over the past 15 years, and the region has done quite well, with a sharp reduction in poverty for the first time in decades.

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    Read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" to understand why this is true.

    Once corporate thugs, backed by their equally bullying government, are forced to play fairly, or are ejected from the game altogether, it's amazing how well a country can prosper.

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    ADCMS

    I read some of that, about how the USA had countries borrow money to build dams, the deal being they had to use the borrowed dollars on US contractors and materials only. So a country borrowed money, paid it back to the USA by using USA contracts only, but then owed billions ...and they were left with a dam that didn't solve their countries problems as the US promised it would.

    So the USA lent money got it straight back through contracts, and then had a small country owe them the amount borrowed, paying hurrendous interest, never able to pay it off.

  • metatron
    metatron

    Exactly. I see the end of US hegemony as very positive.

    metatron

  • opusdei1972
    opusdei1972

    prologos: Thank you for correct me. I am not a native in English, but I will not forget my mistake.

  • prologos
    prologos

    opus: to me so-called mistakes have been the greatest opportunities.

    Your idea of the badly aimed 'stone cut from the mountain' not hiiting the clay-iron Anglo-American amalgam toes, but

    hitting the fingers, the workers of the middle kngdom is appropriate.

    which raises the questions why did Daniel not mention the hands, fingers that are so dexterious, sensitive?

    It shows that the John of Patmos' list of 8 world powers is incomplete.

    The talking snake tale could have spun into longer threads.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    metatron:

    I see the end of US hegemony as very positive.

    So do I. Why? Because the people of the USA will have immensely better lives.

    May I illustrate? Did the loss of Empire make the UK, France, the Netherlands, etc. into worse places to live or better places to live? The Scandinavian nations never really had empires to speak of, and yet they have living standards that are better than the USA.

    So I suggest that once the war criminals in the USA are defeated by the American people's, the USA will be a great place to live.

  • DJS
    DJS

    Met,

    "I see the end of US hegemony as very positive."

    I agree. The US and the West in general can serve as a deterrent, but the US and the rest of the planet will likely be better served if the over-bearing hegemonious behavior ends completely.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I wonder if some members are not aliens of the Star Trek kind. The political and economic analysis on this forum is embarassing. The United States is not going away. Indeed, the situation may be beneficial to the United States. I am sick of America playing world policeman. China is no democracy. I recall when Chinese students started enrolling at American colleges. I met some at Columbia. They were so vocal about human rights. I feared for their safety if they returned home. One would think that with the emergence of a middle class and study abroad that there would be more of a push within China for human rights.

    A friend was very active in arranging the study of the Chinese dissident at NYU Law. Hopefully, we will meet for lunch so I can get a better feel for the situation.

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