If the organization is all about money.....

by Pete Zahut 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    Sorry to be the one to say this, but there's a flaw in your premise, in that it assumes altruism is the primary motivating force in the WTS...

    This is not my premise, I'm trying to argue a point with a JW relative who says that Disfellowshipping is not an outright means to control people. He says it is an unfortunate necessity that is carried out in order to accomplish their assignment from God to spread the word and live in accordance to his commandments. He says it is much like a family who has certain members of the family who continually cause the rest of the family distress and termoil and for the good of the family unit, the other members decide to cut him out of their lives until he demonstrates that he will no longer be a source of problems.

    This makes as much sense as wondering why Fidel Castro arrested and executed political critics, doesn't he want them to be out in the population working in order to collect taxes from them?

    I understand what you are saying but comparing the ousting of someone who is "causing trouble" from a congregation, to Castro's executions doesn't seem appropriate in this case.

    To use your own comparison; McDonald's is a business first and foremost; it disciplines workers who act inappropriately - not because it wants to altruistically feed the masses (if that were the case, it would give people food for free) - but because McDonald's employees who act inappropriately negatively impact McDonald's financial bottom line, which, in turn, ultimately threatens its survival.

    He agrees, the Watchtower/JW.org is a business and has to be run like one to keep it going but the congregations, where the individuals attend, isn't a buisness. The congregations and individuals are like customers or patrons of the Watchtower/ JW.org. If the Watchtower is all about money, they'd want to keep as many of their customers as possible rather than put them out. He says this proves they are more about accomplishing thier mission than they are about making money.

  • John_Mann
    John_Mann

    Are U trying to argue with a JW using logic? Good luck for you.

    Their only "logic" is "we are right and you are doomed".

    (He says it is an unfortunate necessity that is carried out in order to accomplish their assignment from God to spread the word and live in accordance to his commandments.)

    Using Ray Franz example, how a meal with your boss can be a source of problem in spreading the "word of God"?

    It's not about word of god or world of dog, it's all about control. We control you, so if you does not listen and obey you will not be blessed.

    It's a control freak cult. They want (and they do) control the very thought of the JW's.

    Control first, and money is a natural result from it...

  • apostrate
    apostrate

    I once worked with a person who was from a 3rd world country. He told me that the people of his country lived in abject poverty while the rulers of his country lived like kings and were very wealthy. The rulers did not allow the people to become educated. Why? Educated people are hard, if not impossible to lead. I could have swore that he was talking about the Watchtower!

  • gggolovkin
    gggolovkin

    GB WT. really have few questionable doctrines and teaching, wrong interpretations etc.... But to say that they are about making money, all about money, money lover etc..... just too hard to prove that accusations, lacking of evidence, if ul be fair observing... That issue won't help you guys to wake those WT members.... Maybe you guys should focus on false teachings, much better, they could believe you.... But money issues ??? I DON'T THINK SO, just bfaithfaith

  • UFCFan
    UFCFan

    DFing people makes it seem like an exclusive club, and it keeps out people who might say something about TTATT.

    I know a bunch of people who are probably just here because they think it's cool to be in the borg.

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