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  • lambsbottom
    lambsbottom

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2691254/How-Jehovahs-Witnesses-got-street-smart-Believers-swap-infamous-doorstepping-standing-outside-train-stations-shops.html

    It's a practice that's been the butt of jokes for decades: a pair of Jehovah's Witnesses turning up suited and booted on your doorstep.

    But the days of the 140-year-old religious order's members trudging door-to-door in the rain could soon be numbered.

    Thousands have switched tactics to stand on street corners in more than a dozen cities across Britain - and unusually for public preachers, they are staying almost completely silent.

    Leaders believe it is a better tactic in modern Britain, where people do not like being approached directly and prefer browsing as if in a shop.

    Three years after the same tactic was introduced in New York, witnesses have been standing on pavements in at least 13 cities across Britain and handing out tens of thousands of magazines.

    Unl ike other evangelical preachers, they do not shout or call attention to themselves - instead standing in near-silence until someone approaches them.

    'I guess that's just not our style,' said Mark O'Malley, a spokesman for the Jehovah's Witnesses at their London headquarters.

    'We have used inventive approaches down the years. We used "sound cars" in the 1930s which would relay lectures in the street from megaphones on the roof.

    'Radio was used a lot later on and our members wore placards and sandwich boards. But now it's more organised, particularly in larger cities where there's tremendous footfall.

    'I think this method is effective because it allows individuals to take the initiative rather than us approaching them.

    'People find certain approaches more appealing to them. If you go into a shop some people prefer to browse and then at the right time they'll be asked if they'd like some help.'

    Jokes: There are 8million members of the movement around the world, but they often have front doors slammed in their faces. The movement says door-to-door work will continue but people are often not at home +5 Jokes: There are 8million members of the movement around the world, but they often have front doors slammed in their faces. The movement says door-to-door work will continue but people are often not at home +5

    Jokes: There are 8million members of the movement around the world, but they often have front doors slammed in their faces. Leaders say door-to-door work will continue but people are often not at home

    Grump y commuters already sp end their time batting away free newspapers, mag azines, leaflet s and charity collectors - but Mr O'Malley said: 'People tell us that for them, they prefer that approach. Other cultures are similar.'

    Some former believers claim door-to-door preaching - which has been widely parodied for de cades - is unpopular with members who earn a hostile reception on the doorstep.

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    Former member of 14 years Scott Terry, who wrote The Truth: How a Gay Child Was Saved from Religion, said hitting the streets could be the only way to 'clock up' enough hours of service.

    He said: 'Jehovah's Witnesses require a certain amount of "field service," or time spent recruiting, in order to maintain their standing in the congregation.

    'Anyone who does not fulfill those requirements will receive admonishment from the elders, and could also be considered "inactive". There is a tremendous amount of pressure within the congregation to fulfill the hourly requirement.'

    Print run: The organisation wants to build a new headquarters the size of seven football pitches near Chelmsford, Essex, which could print 184,000 copies an hour of magazines such as The Watchtower +5

    Print run: The organisation wants to build a new headquarters the size of seven football pitches near Chelmsford, Essex, which could print 184,000 copies an hour of magazines such as The Watchtower

    Mr O' Mall ey insisted 'nothing's changed' with the movement's stance on doorstepping, which still takes place.

    But he admitted: 'We find a lot of people might not be home, especially during the week.

    'People we might not find door-to-door, we find in the street.'

    The new recruits in the street include 1,000 in London alone, with others in Cardiff, Edinburgh, Manchester, Belfast, Birmingham, Bristol, Glasgow, Leeds, Liverpool, Newcastle, Nottingham and Sheffield. There are also street 'Witnesses' in Dublin, Ireland.

    Media-savvy: Leaders are now analysing which themes shift the most magazines +5

    Media-savvy: Leaders are now analysing which themes shift the most magazines

    They come from a wide range of ethnic backgrounds and more are women than men, but Mr O'Malley said this was because many believers have husbands who work full-time.

    The move men t was founded in the 18 7 0s by Charles Taze Russell, a Presbyterian from P ittsburgh, Pen nsylvania, and now has around 8million members.

    They adopted the name Jehovah's Witnesses in 1931 to reflect the fact that they believe only in direct worship to God (Jehovah) and not the traditional Christian Trinity of 'father, son and Holy Spirit'.

    Certain beliefs - including refusal to salute flags, fight in armed services or accept blood transfusions, even for children - have brought 'Witnesses' in to direct conflict with governments.

    They are also not accepted as a doctrine by mainstream Christianity and former members such as Mr Terry claim they are like a 'cult'.

    But the organisation presides over vast numbers of members worldwide and millions of pounds in funding.

    Next month 50,000 believers will descend on Twickenham stadium in south west London for a convention in more than a dozen languages.

    And in January, the global movement announced its plans to open a new British headquarters the size of seven football pitches on the outskirts of Chelmsford, Essex.

    If built the centre could provide a base for 800 believers, several acres of gardens and a printing room capable of churning out 184,000 magazines every hour.

    Jehovah's Witnesses - whose celebrity members include the singer Prince and tennis champion sisters Serena and Venus Williams - are also becoming more media-savvy.

    Leaders say the May issue of Awake!, their main magazine alongside The Watchtower, shifted record numbers because it was themed around stress, a general topic with which everyone could connect.

    In response the movement is repeating almost exactly the same theme in its September issue, which will be about 'burnout'.

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  • sooner7nc
    sooner7nc

    Just sounds lazy as hell to me. Lazyass JW's

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    Too funny: yes, the public WOULD prefer this method of preaching: just stand there, STFU, we'll look it over and let you know if we want anything

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle

    We did street witnessing for years....over 30 years ago

  • Heartofaboy
    Heartofaboy

    The ones I've seen standing suited & booted by the trolleys look stiff & unapproachable.

    They should stand much further away as I'm sure they were putting people off.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    More JW doublespeak. Notice the inconsistent and contradictory use of the word "approach":

    • Leaders believe it is a better tactic in modern Britain, where people do not like being approached directly and prefer browsing as if in a shop.
    • Unlike other evangelical preachers, they do not shout or call attention to themselves - instead standing in near-silence until someone approaches them.
    • 'We have used inventive approaches down the years. We used "sound cars" in the 1930s which would relay lectures in the street from megaphones on the roof.
    • 'I think this method is effective because it allows individuals to take the initiative rather than us approaching them.
    • 'People find certain approaches more appealing to them. If you go into a shop some people prefer to browse and then at the right time they'll be asked if they'd like some help.'

    In every case, the approach was done by the "interested" non-believer, not by the JW.

    To paraphrase Bill Maher, "Standing and waiting for someone to come up and talk to you is an approach, just like abstinence is a sexual position."

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  • apostrate
    apostrate

    Street Work. Street Walkers. 'Nuff said.

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    This kind of witnessing is great, people will get a book like what does the bible teach, read it, barf, and then have nothing to do with witnesses again.

  • chrisuk
    chrisuk

    The elder I studied with came to my house a month or so back and told me he's been doing metropolitan witnessing in Birmingham. He said he was aproached by a guy who said he was an Atheist, this guy asked the elder why he believed in God. The elder replied: " Do you know why I belive in God? I belive in God because of Ikea. I bought my son a shelving unit from Ikea which came flat packed, I layed all the parts out on the floor ready to be assembled. Now if I'd have left all those parts on the floor for years they still would have been exactly as I left them. The unit couldn't of assembled it's self." He said the Athiest guy gave him a look like he actually got it, and then just walked off. The elder told me that he thought he'd really got through to that guy. I shit you not he really said all this.

    I just sat there thinking the Athiest must have just been shocked at what he'd just heard, thought the elder was beyond help and so he walked off. This elder has been a JW for over 40 years, so as log as they have people with his skills out in public I'd say an increase in numbers is unlikely.

    My mothers friend who is also a JW said she was doing the trolly work and a young ish guy approached them, but he didn't seem to want to talk. So, she asked if he needed any help, at which point he broke down in tears and told her that he was raised a JW but left "The Truth" a few years ago and kew Jehovah didn't love him anymore because he'd spoken ill of God org. Anyway, long story short she asked if he would like her to arrange for a brother to call on him for a study. At which point he cried even more and couldn't thank her enough for helping him. Now, to me this guy sounded like he possibly had some mental health issues and would have been much better off seeking help for that than getting wrapped up with the JW's again.

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