GB guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes. How can JW's believe this stuff?

by integ 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • integ
    integ

    The GB is guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes. Blasphemy against God by claiming they "speak for Jehovah". They said it again recently in an article..that they speak the words of Jehovah and we should listen to those words. Absolutely no humility and outright blasphemy. What is worse (from a religious or spiritual standpoint) than offending God directly by assuming to take over for Him?

    What is shocking and incomprehensible is that all these brain dead zombies buy it all hook line and sinker.

    It makes ZERO logical sense that they can say their words are coming from God but then admit that the words they have been saying need to be changed or altered.

    WHY CAN'T THESE PEOPLE SEE THIS? By saying that... they are saying God was wrong and HE has to change something He said..and THEY are here to announce those changes.

    So...God is NOT infallible...even though they say he IS...but he was wrong about this or that and had to change it....HOW CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THIS?

    THIS kind of stuff is a way bigger sin then having a cigarette at lunch break.

  • designs
    designs

    Isn't that the history of Christianity from the get go.

  • LostGeneration
    LostGeneration

    Your talking about symptoms, not the disease.

    The real problem is the idea of GOD being up there in the sky, letting all of this happen down below.

    Until humans get over themselves and their self importance, this will continue as is.

  • Magnum
    Magnum

    It makes ZERO logical sense that they can say their words are coming from God but then admit that the words they have been saying need to be changed or altered.

    It makes zero sense to me, too. If they speak for Jah, then what they say should never have to be changed in any way.

    For all the years that they taught the old generation teaching - the one that finally ran out of time and had to be changed - were they speaking for Jah? If so, Jah was wrong??? He didn't know what his son meant when he (his son) used the Greek word "genea" (generation)? And now they're speaking for Jah when they say the generation is two different groups whose lives overlap? So Jah got it wrong for many years and was forced to change his story?

    And Jah hated and demonized the internet in its early days, but now he loves it and tells them to have a cool website? Why didn't Jah have the foresight to tell them to have a website in the early days?

    Just how do they get the info from Jah in order to convey it to us? Do they all get it at the same time? Does just one get it? If the info is truly from Jah, why do they have to vote on it? I mean why would somebody vote against Jah? Since they vote, they must not be sure it's from Jah, but they expect JWs to unquestioningly accept it as being from Jah.

    Just think about. Suppose Tony Morris gets some info from Jah. He presents it to the others. If he knows it's from Jah, shouldn't they all just accept it and not have to vote on it. They must have some doubt since they vote and some evidently vote negative at times.

  • integ
    integ

    The difference is the GB claiming THEIR WORDS are God's words...not their interpretation of scripture...which all religions do. It's like a TV evangelist who takes a scripture and then opines and what "God is saying here"...the GB claims what THEY personally and as a group are saying are coming from God...even seperate of scripture.

    Whether God even exists as an entity that is concerned with our affairs in the first place is another topic. Just speaking here under the assumption that he does in this case...and how IF he does...as the witnesses say he does...there is no way to reconcile the GB saying they speak for Him...and then having to change His words because God was originally wrong. IF there is an infallible God as the GB says, then he doesn't change his thoughts or ideas. He's infallible after all.

    From that standpoint strictly...it doesn't make any logical sense to believe the GB speaks for him as they claim. How do they not see this? How do the rank and file reconcile this in their minds?

  • Ucantnome
    Ucantnome

    i'm always glad they never asked me to b on the GB. (I think i was marked at one time)

  • SAHS
    SAHS

    Truth is, the GB make sure they appear to be “covered” by talking out of both sides of their mouth in anticipation of any type of eventuality.

    They have said and published in print that they do, in fact, speak for God as his sole mouthpiece and prophet – but they have also said that the men in the WTS, including the GB, are actually not inspired. . . . So therefore, if anything the WT says happens to “come true” (or at least seems to), such as the rough approximation of the timing of the first world war occurring sort of near one of their significant dates, namely 1914, then they can say, “See, we were right on that one!” But if – that is, when – things don’t actually happen according to how they said they would, then they can always just say, “Well, we never really said that we were actually inspired.”

    The other such way the GB has “fixed,” or “covered,” potential outcomes of events is that they have said that increased distressing political upheavals and conflicts of the nations, such as civil and international wars and acts of terror, are signs that the great tribulation and Armageddon are about to happen (such as Matthew chapter 24) – but they have also said that whenever the nations are crying “peace and security,” then “sudden destruction” is to be “instantly” upon them (1 Thessalonians 5:3). . . . So therefore, when political tensions and conflicts erupt and worsen, then they can say, “See, these events are fulfilling Bible prophecy about the ‘sign’ of the ‘last days.’” But when such conflicts are in the process of being resolved, such as when certain “peace plans” start to be formulated and implemented, albeit usually quite temporary, then they can say, “It looks like this current talk of ‘peace and security’ is fulfilling Bible prophecy, so the UN is about to turn on false religion, which will be the beginning of the great tribulation, leading to Armageddon.”

    So, you can really see how the GB has made sure that they keep all the bases covered, so that when whatever situation or event they could interpret as being “significant” arises, they can simply pick one of their pet statements they have already expressed to match it in a favorable light toward themselves. In other words, they have everything set up so that no matter what happens or doesn’t happen, they can always pull something out of their magic WT hat which may seem to prove them right, depending on how they manage to spin it. They’re always right, don’t you know.

  • Focus
    Focus

    Ultimate crimes merit ultimate punishments.

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    Focus

    ("Bruise for bruise" Class)

  • sparrowdown
    sparrowdown

    These blokes have appointed themselves, they have zero proof of "divine" backing.

    If they have any proof at all it is that they don't have it.

    They used to get around this technicality by careful wording.

    For eg, "spirit directed" rather than "spirit inspired" but it seems they are

    indeed getting more and more bold in their lies.

    What will be the end game? Who knows.

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    Define "spiritual crime"? Define "blasphemy"?

    What religious authority/leader doesn't claim to speak for God?

    It doesn't really matter at all that they allegedly 'blasphemed' a fictional ancient desert-dwelling vengeful, genocidal mythical God, apart from the fact that it tends to augment their unquestioned authority and ability to obtain total blind obedience from their fleeced sheeple.

    All that really matters is that these modern-day Pharisees heinous policies and doctrines which cause real harm and suffering and death to real children and adults is stopped. Wicked creed annd policies such as their blood transfusion policy, faulty child abuse policy, shunning policy.

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