does anyone have the 7/15/2013 study wt?

by sowhatnow 11 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sowhatnow
    sowhatnow

    i watched this video this morning and in it, the person refered to the july 15 wt but does not say what lesson or page

    showing in the video where it says that 'jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave over his belongings did not occour in 1919'.

    on the jw.org website i downladed this issue and cant find where this is stated , i do not have that issue.

    if someone can watch the video , its almost at the end, tell me id your issue says that.

    if it is not at the jw.org website, and the statement is in the print issue then why would that be?

    thanks

    i tried to post the link but cannot figure out how to do it , so try to search it the title is 3 the watchtowers biggest lie

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Are you sure you are looking at the correct year and not looking at 2014 instead?

  • sowhatnow
    sowhatnow

    im just going by what the video says which was posted in may

    have you this issue? if no one does ill have to wait till i get up to my moms and get hers for a look.

  • leaving_quietly
    leaving_quietly

    w13 7/15 pp. 7-8 pars. 16-18

    16 Regarding the faithful and discreet slave, Jesus says: “Happy is that slave if his master on arriving [“having come,” ftn.] finds him doing so.” In the parable of the virgins, Jesus states: “While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived [“came,” Kingdom Interlinear].” In the parable of the talents, Jesus relates: “After a long time the master of those slaves came.” In the same parable, the master says: “On my arrival [“having come,” Int] I would be receiving what is mine.” (Matt. 24:46; 25:10, 19, 27) To what time do these four instances of Jesus’ coming refer?

    17 In the past, we have stated in our publications that these last four references apply to Jesus’ arriving, or coming, in 1918. As an example, take Jesus’ statement about “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Read Matthew 24:45-47.) We understood that the “arriving” mentioned in verse 46 was linked to the time when Jesus came to inspect the spiritual condition of the anointed in 1918 and that the appointment of the slave over all the Master’s belongings occurred in 1919. (Mal. 3:1) However, a further consideration of Jesus’ prophecy indicates that an adjustment in our understanding of the timing of certain aspects of Jesus’ prophecy is needed. Why so?
    18 In the verses that lead up to Matthew 24:46, the word “coming” refers consistently to the time when Jesus comes to pronounce and execute judgment during the great tribulation. (Matt. 24:30, 42, 44) Also, as we considered in paragraph 12, Jesus’ ‘arriving’ mentioned at Matthew 25:31 refers to that same future time of judgment. So it is reasonable to conclude that Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings, mentioned at Matthew 24:46, 47, also applies to his future coming, during the great tribulation. Indeed, a consideration of Jesus’ prophecy in its entirety makes it clear that each of these eight references to his coming applies to the future time of judgment during the great tribulation.
    19 In review, what have we learned? In the beginning of this article, we raised three “when” questions. We first considered that the great tribulation did not begin in 1914 but will start when the United Nations attacks Babylon the Great. Then, we reviewed why Jesus’ judgment of the sheep and the goats did not begin in 1914 but will occur during the great tribulation. Finally, we examined why Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation. So, then, all three “whens” apply to the same future time period—the great tribulation. How does this adjusted view further affect our understanding of the illustration of the faithful slave? Also, how does it affect our understanding of other parables, or illustrations, of Jesus that are being fulfilled during this time of the end? These important questions will be considered in the following articles.

    My own small bit of commentary here.... they're STILL wrong. Jesus doesn't arrive DURING the great tribulation, but AFTER. Matt 24:29-31 says:

    "29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    2013, July 15, Watchtower (Study)

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    Click the link by the blue arrow.

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    https://www.sendspace.com/file/4dgwd3

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    Atlantis!

  • bafh
    bafh

    So, I just read this article. I'm a little confused. they are sticking with the 1914/1919 date, but later say that the slave isn't appointed until the tribulation?

    Am I reading that right? So how do they know they arent a weed instead of wheat??

  • daringhart13
    daringhart13

    LOL......with this reference....is there any doubt that millions of people completely wasted their lives the past 100 years?

    All of their 'authority' has been based on being chosen in 1919......but now they are saying he didn't choose them then???

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    They were chosen, but they were not chosen.

    You see, in 1919 they were chosen to provide the proper food, BUT they were NOT appointed over the domestics.

    The new understanding is that the appointment over all things comes at a later date.

    Doc

  • bafh
    bafh

    So if they were chosen, that means there had to be some group to be chosen from, right? Such as, oh, I don't know....maybe every OTHER christian church??

    I really do think they are going to have to drop the date thing eventually - I read Matt 24 today - and that is the chapter that says "the day or the hour no one knows..." So WHY are we focused on trying to figure it out instead of focusing on what kind of people we are???

  • notsurewheretogo
    notsurewheretogo

    They say there are two appointments in that parable sorry prophecy.

    First appointment, over the dosmetics occurrs in 1919 and the FDS were chosen then to do this.

    Second appointment will be the FDS but will be appointed over ALL belongings and is in the future...

    Doesn't really matter though as Don Cameron points out in his book Captives to a Concept the WT fail to live up to their own qualifying criteria ergo they could not have been appointed in 1919...

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