Would You Convert to Islam to Avoid getting Your Head Chopped Off? Atheist to Polytheist, what say you?

by BucketShopBill 29 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    The men have to give their wives to be used by the soldiers. Just like in the babble. They must be holy.

    where are the voices of the imams, clerics and ayatollahs condemning this conduct?

    They only speak out when afraid they will be affected by a backlash. There is something cowardly in their culture.

    HB

  • MadGiant
  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I would convert the way the Jewish conversos did. There is no way I could not be Christian but prudence is important.

  • jam
    jam

    And you wonder why people are becoming fed up with

    Religion..

  • Spectre
    Spectre

    If such a scenario presented itself, my first though would be: What the hell am I doing in the middle east?

  • Quarterback
    Quarterback

    Well, as long as they don't circumcise me.

  • BucketShopBill
    BucketShopBill

    Good link! The inactive ones are forced to pretend their zealous and watched by their neighbors. The Middle East was under a dark cloud even during the Ottoman Empire, whose idea was it to reintroduce us to Islam and kill off their leaders that kept radicals in check? Whose fault is it that the West took out the only Person-People "Dictators" that kept that region on control? Have you noticed nobody is screaming about Syria now? Notice nobody is yelling about Egypt and how the Military has kicked the Islamic brotherhood out of office? I think people in offices are figuring out the Dictators and Mullahs (Iran) are not evil, removing these men was the worst thing the West has done! We are blood guilty as Western Countries that wrongfully invaded countries who used power to mantain order! Bring Back Saddam Hussein! Bring back Gaddaffi! Sorry if I spelled them wrong, this article you posted on "Pathos"(below) is amazing, he's being more conservative. I read they do "house inspections" to make sure you are being a good Muslim. Here's what happen's to Christians, if your Homosexual your screwed under Islamic law!

    "...

    Sawan Masih’s lawyer said a judge announced the verdict during a hearing at the jail where the trial has been held, amid fears for his client’s safety if he attended court.

    The 26-year-old Masih, who is a father of three, has consistently maintained his innocence during the year-long trial.

    He argues the real reason for the blasphemy allegation was a property dispute between him and his friend.

    That’s how many blasphemy cases come about. If someone gets into a dispute with another person, accusing them of blasphemy is a good way of inflicting pain on them.

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2014/03/31/pakistani-christian-gets-death-penalty-for-blasphemy/

    Crofty, who do you think is going to win this War over time? Intelligent peaceful people or Radicals whose core goals since 580 AD has been to rid the World of all non-Islamic people?

    " In the Middle East, Some Atheists Fake-Fast During Ramadan To Avoid Detection

    July 9, 2014 by Hemant Mehta 39 Comments

    We know it’s not easy to be an atheist in the Middle East. In Saudi Arabia, for example, vocal atheism is on par with terrorism. But I didn’t realize to what extent atheists are trying to avoid detection.

    According to a report at Vocativ by Inna Lazareva and Noam Binshtok, some atheists are even fasting during Ramadan just so no one will catch on....."

    "...

    aid one anonymous Arab atheist,

    “The constant threat of being caught not fasting, which carries severe punishment of lashings and up to a year in prison, makes one vigilant and worried. Ramadan is like Christmas but you are forced to go to Mass and say your prayers, by law”.

    Another anonymous atheist explained how he gamed the system:

    “I stay at work without food but every now and then I go to the bathroom to drink water, and when I’m going in the morning to work I go to a hidden place in the car and take a small sandwich.”

    There’s the mark of an oppressive region for you: It’s not enough that you have to suppress your dissenting thoughts. You also have to play the part of a Muslim just to keep your job and stay out of prison. Scary shit."

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/07/09/in-the-middle-east-some-atheists-fake-fast-during-ramadan-to-avoid-detection/

  • designs
    designs

    I thought of those young girls and women kidnapped by ISIS. I've been sad all day. I have a daughter, what if it was my girl captured.

    I hate religion.

  • BucketShopBill
    BucketShopBill

    Designs, Europe has put itself in a bad position by allowing illegal immigrants (radical Islam) who openly plot against their government while collecting Welfare or Public Dole. In Denmark, Norway and Sweden they are paying some of these idiots $70,000 a year depending on their family size to sit around and plot the fall of the Western World and Western Social Structure. It's the old "buying your own rope to hang you" Proverb.

    The Unemployment rate of the young maligering adults (18-30 years old) in France and Spain is around Forty-Plus Percent! The problem is being too "Accepting" or "non judgemental", it's how this religion gained a strong foot hold at the expense of hard working 'Atheists, Christians, Jews, Buddist, Zoroastrianism ect.." via the Poll Tax. They are not known for a strong work ethic, scholars lamented on how they spent their time stealing, robbing and destroying all elements of society that produce. Their like a virus, killing off the individuals that produce until their all dead, than there's nothing left to feed on! The following Quotes, think of how they connect and what is the common denominator of writers from 660 AD to 2014 AD? More quotes are found on the following link.

    http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/islam.html

    Patriarch Cyrus of Alexandria, while negotiating the surrender of Alexandria to the Muslims, 640 AD:

    "I am afraid that God has sent these men to lay waste the world".

    Winston Churchill, wrote in 1899:

    “The religion of Islam above all others was founded upon the sword … Moreover it provides incentives to slaughter, and in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men – filled with a wild and merciless fanaticism”.

    Theodore Roosevelt wrote:

    Winston Churchill:

    "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

    G.K. Chesterton:

    There is in Islam a paradox which is perhaps a permanent menace. The great creed born in the desert creates a kind of ecstasy of the very emptiness of its own land, and even, one may say, out of the emptiness of its own theology. . . . A void is made in the heart of Islam which has to be filled up again and again by a mere repetition of the revolution that founded it. There are no sacraments; the only thing that can happen is a sort of apocalypse, as unique as the end of the world; so the apocalypse can only be repeated and the world end again and again. There are no priests; and yet this equality can only breed a multitude if lawless prophets almost as numerous as priests. The very dogma that there is only one Mahomet produces an endless procession of Mahomets.

    Winston Churchill 14 June 1921:

    ‘The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offense to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette, and as for alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well armed, and bloodthirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and to the whole institution of the pilgrimage, in which our Indian fellow-subjects are so deeply concerned….The Emir Bin Saud has shown himself capable of leading and, within considerable limits, of controlling these formidable sectaries.'

    Andre Servier, 1922 wrote:

    “Islam was not a torch, as has been claimed, but an extinguisher. Conceived in a barbarous brain for the use of a barbarous people, it was - and it remains - incapable of adapting itself to civilization. Wherever it has dominated, it has broken the impulse towards progress and checked the evolution of society.”

    Hilaire Belloc who wrote in 1938:

    "Will not perhaps the temporal power of Islam return and with it the menace of an armed Mohammedan world, which will shake off the domination of Europeans -- still nominally Christian -- and reappear as the prime enemy of our civilization? The future always comes as a surprise, but political wisdom consists in attempting at least some partial judgment of what that surprise may be. And for my part I cannot but believe that a main unexpected thing of the future is the return of Islam".

    Bishop Fulton J Sheen who wrote in 1950:

    "Today (1950), the hatred of the Moslem countries against the West is becoming hatred against Christianity itself. Although the statesmen have not yet taken it into account, there is still grave danger that the temporal power of Islam may return and, with it, the menace that it may shake off a West which has ceased to be Christian, and affirm itself as a great anti-Christian world Power".

    Vernon Richards wrote:

    "The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this: "Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah" (i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has."

    David Selbourne – The Losing Battle with Islam:

    "Of course, there are distinguished precedents even for the bleakest and coarsest of these judgements. To Montesquieu in 1748, Islam’s ‘destructive spirit’ spoke ‘only by the sword’; to Schopenhauer in 1819, the Koran was a ‘wretched book’ in which he had ‘not been able to discover one single idea of value’; to De Tocqueville in 1843, Islam was ‘deadly’, ‘to be feared’ and a ‘form of decadence’"
    http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/islam.html
  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    Sure I would, why wouldn't you? I am an honest person, but I wouldn't feel guilty for lying in a situation like that. Of course I would recant at the earliest opportunity and would do what ever harm I could while under the Burka, maybe teach some girls to read.

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