Tamar was not a harlot, so Judah did not commit fornication

by opusdei1972 12 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • opusdei1972
    opusdei1972

    This is a portion of what the Insight book says about the affair between Judah and Tamar:

    Therefore, subsequent to Judah’s becoming a widower, Tamar, on learning that her father-in-law was going to Timnah, disguised herself as a prostitute and then seated herself at the entrance of Enaim on the road Judah would be traversing. Not recognizing his daughter-in-law and assuming her to be a prostitute, Judah had relations with her. When it later came to light that Tamar was pregnant, Judah demanded that she be burned as a harlot. But upon the presentation of the evidence that he himself had made her pregnant, Judah exclaimed: “She is more righteous than I am, for the reason that I did not give her to Shelah my son.” Thus unwittingly Judah had taken the place of Shelah in fathering legal offspring. Some six months later Tamar gave birth to the twins Perez and Zerah. Judah had no further relations with her.—Ge 38:12-30. (Judah, it-2 pp. 123-128)

    As we see, Judah wanted to burn Tamar as a harlot, but he was not concerned of himself when he had sex with Tamar as a harlot. Of course, Tamar was not a harlot, but Judah thought she was. This means that Judah (if existed) did it more than once. He thought it wasn't wrong to have sex with a prostitute, though a prostitute must be burned. Buuuuuut, Judah can't be disfellowshipped for that, no, no, no, he was a good man, because David,....,and Jesus would be his descendants. To have a better understanding of how Judah can be excused, we have to read the Watchtower:

    Questions From Readers

    What circumstances caused Judah to have sexual relations with a woman he thought was a harlot, as stated at Genesis 38:15, 16?

    While Judah did have sexual relations with a woman he thought was a harlot, in reality she was not a harlot.......

    Judah acted wrongly in that he did not give Tamar to his son Shelah as promised. He also had relations with a woman he thought was a temple prostitute. This was contrary to God’s purpose, which was for a man to have sexual relations only in the marriage arrangement. (Genesis 2:24) In reality, though, Judah did not have relations with a harlot. Rather, he unwittingly took the place of his son Shelah in performing brother-in-law marriage and thus fathered legal offspring. As for Tamar, her course was not an immoral one. Her twin sons were not considered to be the sons of fornication. (w04 1/15)

    So, Judah just did something wrong against to God's purpose and then he wanted to burn Tamar, but don't worry, "In reality, Judah did not have relations with a harlot", in the same way that Rutherford just loved Berta and Bonnie and sent witnesses out "from door to door to face the enemy while he went from drink to drink".

  • designs
    designs

    if God says so....

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    Judah didn't do anything wrong in the same way that Joshua and Caleb just happened to find themselves hanging out at Rahab's place

  • NAVYTOWN
    NAVYTOWN

    What a convoluted fantasy story. Too bad it's all just made-up nonsense. Never take this stuff seriously.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Remember how the WTS praises Judah's younger brother Joseph for fleeing adultery with his boss' wife even though there was no law code against it but excuses Judah for commiting a serious sexual sin because there was no law code.

    *** w99 10/1 p. 29 Fortified to Say No to Wrongdoing ***

    How did Joseph acquire the moral strength to say no to Potiphar’s wife day after day? For a start, he valued his relationship with Jehovah far more than he valued momentary pleasures. Additionally, although he was not under a divine law code (the Law of Moses was yet to come), Joseph had a clear grasp of moral principles; he knew that committing fornication with Potiphar’s infatuated wife would be a sin not only against her husband but also against God.—Genesis 39:8, 9.

    *** w73 6/15 p. 384 Questions From Readers ***

    As far as Judah was concerned, he thought he was having relations with a prostitute. In this he was not acting right, for it was God’s original purpose for a man to have relations with his wife and not for the earth to be filled with prostitutes. Still, Judah did not sin in the sense of transgressing a specific command of God’s law, for the Mosaic law was not given until much later.—Gen. 2:24; compare Leviticus 19:29.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    Ha, that's funny, thanks for pointing that out blondie.

  • PaintedToeNail
    PaintedToeNail

    blondie strikes again! What wonderful critical thinking, thank you!

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Judah was a big fat hypocrite, pre-law or post-law!

  • opusdei1972
    opusdei1972

    All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)

    So, how could I be completely equipped for every good work by reading the account of the affair between Judah and Tamar?

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Typical cult bullchit.

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