God is love, but if you dont love him back he will slaughter you!

by BU2B 35 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Of course we all know you can cherry-pick texts to make the bible say anything you want.

    Christians who believe that God is exclusive and murderous need to explain those scriptures. They cannot reconcile them with the exclusive, murderous god some of their churches teach.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    It is insulting for anybody to suggest that an intelligent 21st century person ought to take it seriously.

    I sure wouldn't suggest that anyone take the books as being penned by anyone other than man. On the other hand, there is a lot of wisdom in the book, aside from the horror stories and it is an interesting read.

  • prologos
    prologos

    sorry, no comment, finger out of control.

  • redvip2000
    redvip2000

    But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

    Loving indeed. Perhaps if that hadn't worked, Jehoober would have removed one hand from each human. That would have really slowed them down.

    And why is it ok for humans to build tall buildinsg now? Shouldn't fire be raining down on these buildings as punishment?

  • cofty
    cofty

    On the other hand, there is a lot of wisdom in the book

    I have read it many times and found no wisdom apart from facile platitudes.

  • abbasgreta
    abbasgreta

    This is my personal take on this:

    God loves with intensity all those created in His 'image and likeness' and He knows the name and circumstances of each person in each abode all around the world. There is a Day when the 'groaning' and suffering of all creation will cease and all effects thereof will be reversed in full. When the Lord returns to wind up history, as Matt 25 stipulates is His judging criteria, he will bless those who, with OR without realising it, proved this godly heritage by giving willing heart-moved aid to those suffering in various types of distress. I believe 9 out of 10 people are compassionate at heart. All sorts of people everywhere. Those He chooses to separate from Himself forever must then be those completely devoid of any thread of compassion and empathy and therefore rotten to the core, unwilling to respond to His final pleas to repent of their brazen record of cruelty and wilful 'turning a blind eye' to suffering.

    Which reminds me: After the 'slave' noo-lite - Do the witnesses hold that 'the least ones' whom we are to feed, clothe and comfort is now the 'slave', ie 7 (!) men in Brooklyn, who live in every comfort? They should seriously take to heart, "Solemnly I declare to you, in so far as you failed to do it for the least (in the estimation of men - Thayer) of these, you failed to do it for Me" Matt 25:45 Amplified Bible.

    For, unlike all other religious groups and charitable institutions, they do virtually nothing for the less fortunate even at local community level. No collecting for food banks at the k hall (which btw is open for 10 hours a week at most and offers zilch benefit to local people, unlike churches with their open-door Clubs for newborns to 90 year+ olds), no soup kitchens or offers of shelter for the homeless in winter, and so on and etc. (I dare bet pioneers on benefits GO to foodbanks themselves which would be truly sickening).

  • prologos
    prologos

    abbasgreta, it is not in the noolite. The wt has taught for the longest time that gifts to the wt, which represents the anointed, is the key to be a sheep on Christ's right hand, to be tetermined at the judgement.

    they have declared themselfs to be the "Least Ones", the exclusive "brothers of Christ", the sole legitimate beneficaries of the largesse of the sheep's time & resources.

  • cofty
    cofty

    That's very nice Abba but it ignores almost all of the biblical data.

    Bible god - the god and father of Jesus - was a capriciouis tyrant who is undeserving of our love or respect.

  • tootired2care
    tootired2care

    One of Jesus' most famous lines is, "Love your enemies," as he says here in Matthew 5:43:

      "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven."

    He reiterates the message in Luke 6:26:

      "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

    Mark 16:15-16

      He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned [to hell].

    This is rather hypocritical don't you think? On one hand Jesus tells his disciples to love their enemies, but then if the enemies don't love god, then they get to burn in hell for eternity. Is that really loving ones enemies? Good news indeed! This is almost as bad as Islam.

  • cofty
    cofty

    It is a mystery to me why popular opinion sees Jesus as a role-model.

    If he was alive today we would not hesitate to condemn him as a dangerous, egocentric cult leader.

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