Nov 2014 WT, much about nothing, or is it?

by Quarterback 12 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Quarterback
    Quarterback

    The article "Why We Must Be Holy" ties in obedience as being Holy. There is a subheading in this article that states " Prove Yourselves Holy by Being Obedient". par 9 quotes three brothers who had some conflicts, but they went along with the Org.

    Get ready for some commands to come.

  • NAVYTOWN
    NAVYTOWN

    I think 'Holy' is a total nonsense word. What does it really mean to be 'holy' anyway? Does it mean trying to live according to the dictates of a 2000 year old 'holy' book?? How does anyone 'become Holy'.....by following the man-made rules of some man-made religion? In fact, calling something Holy is a way to put it beyond criticism......as if you cannot argue with anyone who is declared Holy. In whose opinion are they Holy??? What are the criteria for labeling anything as Holy? I think it's high time the word 'Holy' is put out to pasture. It's just silly.

  • label licker
    label licker

    Navytown, that's exactly what they want you to believe. They know alot of the elders are scumbags and that's why they now have the co doing the pickings. They know people are fed up so now they want you to think that it's not just the elders but now the co will double lick the label as though it's his holy stamp of approval.

    My elders let a criminal smash in his wife's car, drunk and by hand, wave a loaded gun in her face and threaten to kill her, got a highschool student to forge his wife's name on a legal document and as soon as he found out we knew about it, he fired her, threatened to kill his father, does not have a gun license to own these guns, have had the cops called on him several times for domestic abuse, had an affair on his wife-----all this and the elders did absolutely nothing but came after us for knowing about it and stopped going to the meetings. The kicker out of all of this and watchtower I hope your reading this, the co was informed about it and didn't want to hear about it. Why? All at once this guys relatives, who oddly enough were my accusers all decided to pioneer and put on a show. After the co was done which was this year, none of them are pioneering anymore and two of my accusers were made elders two months after my jc. Bethel was called and I gave them my transcript fo my jc and then they had the nerve to say they never told me to bring it in. That was Rod Jong who lied and has now taken Ken Little's place at the canadian bethel branch. They all got their reward as far as I'm concerned and will have to face god when the time comes. This is their definition of holy and it reeks.

    Any of you lurkers have better pay attention for these wacos are gearing up for something and it's something that involves all of you. Get away from these whores.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Last weeks WT said that we prove our love by showing our appreciation for the Elders and being submissive to these "gifts in men". It's the same shit, different day. Obey the ORG. The GB are just preparing the sheeple's minds for the day when the ORG is exposed. They need enough followers left to be able to run the ORG from Warwick as an web-religion.

    Its all about the legacy, and lifestyle. The next GB members need a sweet little Beth-Sarim of their own.

    DD

  • respectful_observer
    respectful_observer

    This is quite the issue of the WT. They double-down on blood transfusions, disfellowshipping, reporting service time, summarize the change in how elders are appointed, etc. It's like they've been monitoring the speculation on this site and decided to shoot down all the speculation in one printing.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    respectful_observer - "It's like they've been monitoring the speculation on this site and decided to shoot down all the speculation in one printing."

    Wouldn't put it past 'em.

    BTW, there's also the line the drew in the sand on the "two-witness" rule. But then, that's an internal thing.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    oh, if the Borg is exposed, I can imagine there being suicide, after suicide, after suicide... would be terrible.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    HolyI would equate to the sanctity/degradation model moral foundation identified by Haidt.

    5) Sanctity/degradation: This foundation was shaped by the psychology of disgust and contamination. It underlies religious notions of striving to live in an elevated, less carnal, more noble way. It underlies the widespread idea that the body is a temple which can be desecrated by immoral activities and contaminants (an idea not unique to religious traditions).

    Obedience is related to loyalty/betrayal.

    3) Loyalty/betrayal: This foundation is related to our long history as tribal creatures able to form shifting coalitions. It underlies virtues of patriotism and self-sacrifice for the group. It is active anytime people feel that it's "one for all, and all for one."

    http://www.moralfoundations.org/

    So here the WTS is equating disobedience with dirtiness, filth. To be holy you have to suck it up, choke it down, and wait for Paradise. How much of life is deferred as the loyal Witness tries to live up to this paragon of virtue?

  • clarity
    clarity

    Escaping the watchtower leaves such a stink on us,

    that it is hard to get rid of it entirely. I feel so grieved

    for all of the millions of us who have had to run from

    this cesspool............. please accept my condolences

    and admiration for everyone last of you.

    *

    Seems they are always planning more of it, & turning the screws

    even tighter. The scariest part of it for me is that NONE of their

    doctrines & rules can really be explained or even makes sense .....

    and yet 7 million keep swallowing it!

    clarity

  • LostGeneration
    LostGeneration

    Holy=Behavioral control in WT world.

    Just another article to enforce behavioral do's and don'ts.

    A biggie I noticed, from paragraph 5.

    A heartrending experience for Aaron’s family is recorded at Leviticus 10:1-11. They must have been devastated when fire from heaven consumed

    Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu at the tabernacle. What a test of faith it was for Aaron and his family not to mourn their dead relatives! Are you personally

    proving yourself holy with regard to not associating with family members or others who have been disfellowshipped?

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