JW's on a Saturday morning.

by donny 22 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    The Study edition of the WT is completely different from the Public edition; it's a different set of articles with a different focus. Also, the magazines for, say, August, are distributed to the congregations months beforehand, so they have that time to read over the magazines before offering them. Good Witnesses will do that -- the rest of us just wing it by glancing through the issues five minutes before going to our first door with them

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    "Well because that is a very, very, very important statement. What your church is essentially saying is that in the spring of 1919, God ceased any involvement with any and all other religions and from that point on he only worked through you guys."

    "I guess it is important. I just had never thought about it much." (I am not surprised)

    He then began explaining the 7 times mentioned in the book and how it added up to 2520 years and if you start with the destruction of Jehovah's temple in the year 607 BC you end up in the year 1914......Donny

    Numerology
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Not to be confused with number theory.

    Numerology is any belief in divine, mystical or other special relationship between a number and some coinciding events. It has many systems and traditions and beliefs. Numerology and numerological divination by systems such as isopsephy were popular among early mathematicians, but are no longer considered part of mathematics and are regarded as pseudomathematics or pseudoscience by modern scientists. [ 1 ] [ 2 ] [ 3 ]

    Today, numerology is often associated with the paranormal, alongside astrology and similar divinatory arts. [ 4 ]

    Despite the long history of numerological ideas, the word "numerology" is not recorded in English before c.1907. [ 5 ]

    The term numerologist is also used derogatorily for those perceived to place excess faith in numerical patterns (and draw scientifically unsound inferences from them), even if those people do not practice traditional numerology. For example, in his 1997 book Numerology: Or What Pythagoras Wrought, mathematician Underwood Dudley uses the term to discuss practitioners of the Elliott wave principle of stock market analysis.

    History

    Modern numerology often contains aspects of a variety of ancient cultures and teachers, including Babylonia, Pythagoras and his followers (Greece, 6th century B.C.), astrological philosophy from Hellenistic Alexandria, early Christian mysticism, early Gnostics, the Hebrew system of the Kabbalah, The Hindu Vedas, the Chinese "Circle of the Dead", Egyptian "Book of the Masters of the Secret House" (Ritual of the Dead). [ 6 ]

    Pythagoras and other philosophers of the time believed that because mathematical concepts were more "practical" (easier to regulate and classify) than physical ones, they had greater actuality. St. Augustine of Hippo (A.D. 354–430) wrote "Numbers are the Universal language offered by the deity to humans as confirmation of the truth." Similar to Pythagoras, he too believed that everything had numerical relationships and it was up to the mind to seek and investigate the secrets of these relationships or have them revealed by divine grace. See Numerology and the Church Fathers for early Christian beliefs on the subject.

    In 325 A.D., following the First Council of Nicaea, departures from the beliefs of the state Church were classified as civil violations within the Roman Empire. Numerology had not found favor with the Christian authority of the day and was assigned to the field of unapproved beliefs along with astrology and other forms of divination and "magic". [citation needed] Despite this religious purging, the spiritual significance assigned to the heretofore "sacred" numbers had not disappeared; several numbers, such as the "Jesus number" have been commented and analyzed by Dorotheus of Gaza and numerology still is used at least in conservative Greek Orthodox circles. [ 7 ] [ 8 ] Numerology is prominent throughout Sir Thomas Browne's 1658 literary Discourse The Garden of Cyrus. Throughout its pages the author attempts to demonstrate that the number five and the related Quincunx pattern can be found throughout the arts, in design, and in nature – particularly botany.

    Modern numerology has various antecedents. Ruth A. Drayer's book, Numerology, The Power in Numbers (Square One Publishers) says that around the turn of the century (from 1800 to 1900 A.D.) Mrs. L. Dow Balliett combined Pythagoras' work with Biblical reference. Then on Oct 23, 1972, Balliett's student, Dr. Juno Jordan, changed Numerology further and helped it to become the system known today under the title "Pythagorean", although Pythagoras himself had nothing to do with the system. Dr. Jordan's work "The Romance in Your Name" provided a system for identifying key numerological influences in one's name and birth date and remains a seminal interpretive guide for practitioners today. Subsequent 'numerologists' including Florence Campbell (1931), [ 9 ] Lynn Buess (1978), Mark Gruner (1979), Kathleen Roquemore (1985) expanded on the use of numerology for assessing major aspects of personality and cyclical patterns in life. [citation needed]

    Australian philosopher David Stove pointed out different pseudoscientific beliefs, for example numerology and astrology, may be pathological in different ways. When critiquing such pseudoscientific beliefs, philosophers and scientists should take into account that the fallacies that give rise to the "particular awfulness" of one pseudoscientific belief may not be applicable to another. [ 10 ]

    ........................WBT$ Dates are Based on a WatchTarded Version of Numerology.

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  • blondie
    blondie

    jws are afraid to explain 1914, 2520 years, and 607 to each other.

    My experience:

    1) public speakers at the KH

    2) Sisters/brothers assigned that topic in the school

    3) rank and file jws approaching the "knowledgeable" jws like elders or pionerss to go back with them on an RV or study

    And these were jws for many years. I wonder if the elders even go over this question with baptismal candidates or skip over it. The elder who did it with my husband skipped over that...because the elder could not explain it himself.

    The WTS helpfully put this in the back of the old NWT....is it still there? Bible Topics for Discussion

    6. Chronology

    A. 1914 (C.E.) ends Gentile Times

    Line of kingdom rulers interrupted, 607 B.C.E. ˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛ Eze 21:25-27

    “Seven times” to pass until rule restored. ˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛ Da 4:32, 16, 17

    Seven ˙ 2 3 1 ⁄ 2 times, or 2 1,260 days. ˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛ Re 12:6, 14; 11:2, 3

    A day for a year. [Makes 2,520 years] ˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛ Eze 4:6; Nu 14:34

    To run until Kingdom’s establishment. ˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛˛ Lu 21:24; Da 7:13, 14

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