Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

by Viviane 250 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  Vidqun

  Here’s two prophecies of Isaiah that scholars had a problem with, especially Isaiah 19. If these did not come to pass in the past, they have now.

  Syria, the country where the original King of the North was based, would be plunged into a vicious civil war during the latter part of the days. In Is. 17:1 we read of God’s pronouncement against Damascus : “Look! Damascus removed from being a city, and she has become a heap, a decaying ruin.” To me this is a reminder that Biblical prophecies should be taken seriously.

  In connection with Egypt of Is. 19:1-15, Ringgren of TDOT, vol. VIII, p. 529, had the following to say:

  The series of statements in Is. 19:1-15 is more problematical, and its authenticity is generally disputed based on stylistic considerations. A prediction is made for the dissolution of national order, the collapse of economic life, and the confusion of Egypt’s rulers. “A fierce king will rule over them” (v. 4: historical allusion or a prediction for the future?). Isaiah’s usual warning against reliance on Egyptian aid is absent. These assertians are followed by a series of statements introduced by bayyôm hahû’ [an eschatological marker] which are doubtlessly secondary….

  As seen, a historical fit for Is. 19 would cause both exegete and interpreter untold problems. Such a period in Egyptian history cannot be identified. However, above statements would make perfect sense as a prediction for the future, as of now.
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  jwfacts

  Syria, the country where the original King of the North was based, would be plunged into a vicious civil war during the latter part of the days.

  How it that a prophecy? At the time of Daniel, the entire area was constantly in war.

  Daniel 8 proves Daniel is not and is also part of much evidence that Daniel was not completed till about 200BC. Daniel discusses four world powers, agreed upon as Babylon, Medo Persia and Greece and Rome. However, only the first three are named in Daniel. The forth (Rome) that belongs to a time after Daniel was finalised was not named because Daniel is not prophetic.
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  Viviane

  dear Viviane...

  indeed, all those witnesses and you still deny that He was made King of the Jews.

  love michelle

  What witnesses? Please provide their names, specific testimony, what dates Jesus inhabited the palace and sat on the throne, his proclomations, rulings, etc.

  Also, specifically, detail who made him king. You constantly vary on that, so we need to be clear. Also, please show me the prophecy that specifically says a man named Jesus would be made King, when it would happen and who would do it.
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  Viviane

  Viviane opened the floor to refutation of BIBLICAL prophesy being fulfilled or not. If you want to contend that the OT prophesies (in the bible) are fabricated that may be another thread you'd like to open but, this thread hasn't been about that.

  Since there is no prophecy in the Bible saying a man names Jesus would be crowned King, it's quite irrelevant to this discussion.

  Which OT prophecies do you think came true? Include the specifics and historical evidence of fulfillment.

  The stage was set and the (opposing!!) actors were in their place to fulfill the prophesies that God would choose and set a King (one like the son of man) over "the kingdom"

  That's a theological argument, not a historical one. It's a matter of personal belief, not one of historical evidence. In any event, no prophesy ever said a man name Jesus would be crowned King. Jesus also never referred to himself as the son of man.
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  Viviane

  Here’s two prophecies of Isaiah that scholars had a problem with, especially Isaiah 19. If these did not come to pass in the past, they have now.

  As JWFacts points, out, that had happened before, war was a constant part of life then, predicting that required no special knowledge. It fails on specifics.

  In any event, chapter 19 says Egypt would tremble at the might of Israel and would speak the language of the Caananites and would swear allegiance to Jehovah, build monuments to him and worship Jehovah along with Assyria.

  That has not happened, prophecy failed.
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  Phizzy

  Well spotted Viv.

  Bible believers really are so very, very naughty, they just pick bits that seem to fit, and ignore the rest of the "Prophecy". Of course, if just one bit fails, their own Book tells them, it is not from God.

  As you succinctly put it on another Thread : Not one Bible "prophecy" has come true.
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  Vidqun

  Let's say the prophecy has had a partial fulfillment. According to above prophecies, there's some interesting developments to look forward to. Time will tell.
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  Viviane

  Let's say the prophecy has had a partial fulfillment. According to above prophecies, there's some interesting developments to look forward to. Time will tell.

  S, it's an unfulfilled prophecy.
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  Vidqun

  No, it's a partially fulfilled prophecy. You'll have to wait for the full package. It's even more interesting if you apply the clue of Rev. 11:8 where Egypt is used as an eponym for the world. So, then the prophecy has an even wider application.
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  Viviane

  What part was specifically fulfilled exactly as predicted?