making it up as they go along as per usual
AGM 2014 Detailed Highlights - including talks summary.
by Da.Furious 34 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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BluesBrother
Thanks Da Furious for the concise notes from your friend. Interesting stuff, about parables and prophecy....If Sis Blues were to read this, I know she would say, "Why do they save all the meaty talks for the elite who go to the A G M - and make us sit through all that repetitive stuff about families and conduct when we go to an assembly?"
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steve2
Who'd have thought that what Jesus is alleged to have spoken 2,000 plus years ago was so damn seriously complicated that it required God's alleged unique channel of "Truth" on planet earth multiple attempts to get "just" right - and it still is probably not there quite yet in terms of accuracy?! Each of seat stuff - for dullards, perhaps.
The "Truth" just gets complicateder and even more complicateder.
Thank God for "selfless" men in Brooklyn/Warwick deciphering Jesus's complicated speeches.
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pixel
We Cannot go beyond what is written,
Will they admit that by writting about type/antitypes they were indeed going beyond what was written?
Gog of Magog is not Satan but a coalition of nations. Gog and Magog represent more than one nation. This raises the question: Is it this coalition related to attack of king of the north?
Ezekiel 38:6, 25 vs Daniel 11:44, 45, 12:1
Can't say but likely could be the same identity.
In the mind of the R&F It is the same identity.
Do we need to make comparisons to every detail?
They got rid of ol' Russell, now they are throwing ol' Franz under the bus.
Idiots.
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Apognophos
Yeah, wow, the explicit move away from antityping is quite surprising to me. Someone here was just pointing out recently that types and antitypes are never talked about anymore, but I didn't think they would actually address this in a talk. Franz must be spinning in his grave; "But, but, the three loaves mean..."
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JW GoneBad
GB Splane said something along the lines in his part about 'Types and anti-types: "Where the Bible is silent, we must be silent"
What is WT's track record on being silent?:
1. On the matter of 1914 doctrine: The Bible is silent vs WT has been very outspoken!
2. On the matter of Overlapping Generation doctrine: The Bible is silent vs WT has been very outspoken!
3. On the matter of Blood Transfusion doctrine: The Bible is silent vs WT has been very outspoken!
4. On the matter of stressing 'Pioneer Service' doctrine: The Bible is silent vs WT has been very outspoken!
5. On the matter of Disfellowshipping and Shunning doctrine: The Bible is silent vs WT has been very outspoken!
6. On the matter of being critical of Higher Education: The Bible is silent vs WT has been very outspoken!
7. On the matter of Satan being 'Gog of Magog' doctrine: The Bible is silent vs WT has been very outspoken!
Bottom line: The WTBTS has a track record of running off at the mouth!!!!
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piztjw
Revelation 20:7,8 “Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Maʹgog, to gather them together for the war.
It will be interesting to see how they spin this. Now the old truth that Gog was Satan is the new lie. Or is the old lie now the new truth? In any case how can Satan gather the nations, who now are considered Gog, AFTERhe is loosed at THE ENDof the thousand years? Aren't they supposedly destroyed at Armageddon? They have made a claim based on Ezekial, and as a result have made a lie of Revelation.
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leaving_quietly
It's amazing that the more they try, the more they fail. As pitzjw said, Gog and Magog don't come on the scene until AFTER the thousand years have ended.
As for the 10 virgins, did they even bother to explain Matthew 25:9? "The discreet answered, saying: ‘Perhaps there may not be enough for both us and you. Go instead to those who sell it, and buy some for yourselves.’ " The "oil" isn't faithful service. You can't buy faithful service. Must be something else that they haven't figured out, yet.
As for the 10 talents, this cannot represent the preaching work. Why not? Think about the one slave who buried his talent. The master told him that if he had at least deposited it in a bank so as to gain interest, then the master would have been happy. You can't put preaching in a bank, so to speak. This makes no sense.
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hamsterbait
Wait wait wait! Half the virgins were foolish. Does this mean half the anointed wil be unfaithful? No half the annointed will not be unfaithful? But they will realise they have been replaced?
By whom? The mentally diseased ones who started partaking after the train set off???
another fly farm on a steaming pile of shite.
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Pistoff
The current bunch of doctrine gurus are truly inept, and if these notes are accurate, it is the proof.
They not only didn't need to talk about any of this, but they belittle their own history and previous doctrines by saying, in essence, don't over-analyze.
And they poo poo trying to understand the details of the virgins and the talents parables!
Astounding.
The triumph of style over substance is on parade.