Four Levels of Shunning

by Londo111 15 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    Remember: the word shun means “to avoid, especially persistently”.

    Level 1

    Official Watchtower policy makes extreme shunning mandatory for those disfellowshipped or disassociated. There are, of course, two loopholes:

    (1) One is not shunned if living in the same household…but this works as long as one is not kicked out of their own home (like RayPublisher was) or if the JW decide to leave as a consequence.

    (2) One may do “necessary family business”..but this is open to interpretation and obviously relations are very uncomfortable and strained.

    But for those two loopholes, a JW may not speak to the person shunned, not even to say hello. Those who do can themselves be subject to a secret trial and shunned as well.

    Level 2

    A lesser form of shunning is marking. A person has broken the Watchtower rules, but technically, not in a way where they are subjected to a judicial committee. The person being marked can be spoken to, but not associated with socially until the person capitulates. For instance, a person can be marked for dating or getting engaged to a non-JW.

    Level 3

    The Watchtower teaches that one person can individually mark another and stop socializing with them, without any official marking. A person who is seen as “spiritually weak” or with “apostate leanings” is avoided. Maybe they are given a greeting or handshake, but that’s about it. The JW who greets the one being shunned may feel they are being generous and loving. Ha!!!

    Level 4

    Even individuals who follow Watchtower rules and believe exactly what the Watchtower teaches can be “left out”. Often, it is “out of sight, out of mind”. Move to another congregation and you can be easily forgotten. And if a person is not in the “in group”, they can find themselves excluded. Of course, this is not just a Watchtower or a cult problem, but JWs are not immune from social exclusion due to not being popular for reasons that have nothing to do with religion. Due to the judgmental environment, people can be excluded with very trivial reasons.

    Shunning is so much part of the fabric of being a JW, there is so much inertia around this, that even if official action from elders were dropped, shunning would well continue. It is how JWs are taught. It is in the air they breath.

    It is definitely not Christianity.

  • new hope and happiness
    new hope and happiness

    Londo:- i created the most beautiful self portrait. I did it with emotions i never new i had in side me.

    So i tirned my shunning in to a positive. I am proud of that painting. It's positive and bright and many of my friends have copies.

    Shunning in any level is dispicable. My painting turned that pain in to a " self portrait" of love. I was amazed i could do that...

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    But Londo according to their website they don't shun, their the sweetest most loving org on the planet, Gods one and true organization that doesn't follow the teachings of Christ at all, but hey that doesn't matter they know gods name atleast his made up Catholic name.

  • zeb
    zeb

    NH & H: Oils? You have discovered the power of personal creativity. Go the creative hobbies!

  • hoser
    hoser

    I'm shunned #3 and #4

  • prologos
    prologos

    It would be nice to have a group of people preparing actively for a better world, by apllying the unrealisticly idealist teachings of the NT, but wt, even if it gatheres the innocents, has usurped the role of the " least of my brothers", the needy in society. It has created a highly stratified membership from GB, F&DS anointed to sheep/ goats. marked, expelled. pioneers down.

    all this without credentials by clawing their way up, trampling (by marking) the deemed lower, unworthy.

    a shameful lot. but

    remember it is all based on the "talking snake story". an illusion that has no meaning in the great scheme of things.

  • NAVYTOWN
    NAVYTOWN

    Shunning on any level as practiced by JWs proves to me that they are EVIL people. They consider themselves to be 'nice' people who wouldn't hurt a fly. But in reality they are similar to Nazis in that they allow evil deeds by slavishly claiming to be 'just following orders' from those in authority. I'm sure there were Nazi extermination camp directors who likewise saw themselves as being 'nice, thoughtful family men' who were loved by their children and spouses. Yet they participated in unspeakable horrors by being part of an evil system. Likewise, individual Witnesses may SEEM like nice, kind people. Yet they would let an innocent sick baby die by refusing to give it a life-saving blood transfusion. They would desert their own children if the child decided to follow another religion. They would willingly go along with the total shunning of a longtime member for the 'sin' of simply saying a greeting to a disfellowshipped JW. Really, what type of monsters do these sorts of things? Evil people!! So the next time you run into a Witness, just remember that they would treat you like dirt on their shoes if you don't agree EXACTLY with what their religion tells them to believe. After all, they are 'just following orders'. Just like Hitler's followers in Nazi Germany.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    I've always been somewhere in Level 4. Growing up, the kids in my hall were preps and were all about clothing. My short sleeve shirts and clip on ties weren’t good enough for them. It was difficult to reconcile being excluded from social circles with being in the ‘one true religion’, the ‘most loving’ organization on earth. In retrospect, it created allot of cognitive dissonance. Had I known TTATT, I would have found it more bearable.

    I’ve experienced Level 1 for a while, but now am in Level 3. My former best friend shook my hand at a funeral. I suppose he thought he was being gracious. Never mind he didn’t invite me to his wedding or even notify me he was moving away--I learned these things through Raging Bull, who was 'undercover' at the time. A few seconds of feigned friendliness is not love.

    I saw this video on Facebook this morning and thought it was very pertinent:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7DWX0L2goo&list=UUC2X4J6CmPJkKi-hQXZkkOg

  • Kalos
    Kalos

    At the root of shunning lies FEAR!

  • clarity
    clarity

    Great comments all of you ... video made me cry!

    NavyTown ... loved the analogy & will use it. Thanks.

    clarity

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