"Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

by FatFreek 2005 50 Replies latest social current

  • Island Man
    Island Man

    Ebola is not airborne. Ebola is spread by contact with infected bodily fluids. Think about it people: If Ebola was airborne, do you think there would just be 8000 cases in West Africa? There would have been millions of people infected by now! If Ebola was airborne it would be spreading as fast as the flu. This is clearly not happening. Only persons who come in direct contact with infected individuals are getting it.

    Why are health workers wearing protective gear getting it? Ironically, many healthcare workers are probably getting it because they're wearing protective gear! You see, the protective gear gives such workers a sense of security and so they're not too concerned about the patient's bodily fluids getting on them (and caring for Ebola patients is a messy job involving exposure to much bodily fluids as patients need to be cleaned from having diarroeah, vomiting, bleeding, etc) So if the protective gear is not full proof, that sense of security that the caregiver has, is actually a false sense of security and the caregiver is actually over-exposing himself without even realizing it.

    Even if the protective gear adequately shields the caregiver, the weakest link in terms of protection is actually the removal of the fluid-soiled gear. It can be very tricky to remove gear tainted with bodily fluids without getting some of that fluid on you. For this reason I think hazmat suits should be used because they leave no part of the body exposed and can be completely showered over with disinfectant to make the suit germ free before removing it.

    " for that professional ( two of them) to contract the disease says a lot about the degree of contagiousness of that virus."

    No. It says a lot about the poor nature of the protective gear they're using. These workers aren't using hazmat suits but makshift gear that leaves some parts exposed and which presents the risk of contamination when they're being removed - regardless of how careful you try to be!

  • little_Socrates
    little_Socrates

    Simon17 do some research. All of that has been verified. Let me simplify this, the virus is EXTREEMLY contategous... we are just apparently fortunate that you arn't particularly contegous till late in the illness.

    The RO (reproductifve rate) is just as high as flu. However it only takes you 3-5 days to pass on your flu to two other people. With Ebola it takes 3-4 weeks to pass it on to two people. Spreads just as easily but just slower. THAT is why it appears as though it isn't a problem. By the end of the year we will know just how serrious it is.

  • little_Socrates
    little_Socrates

    "If this was the 10th century than Ebola would be the modern day bubonic plague. But its the 21st century. Its not a big problem in places that have 21st century medicine."

    The incedious this about this virus is that it takes out your hospitals first. We see it already starting in Dallas. In the heavily hit areas all all the senior staff at many of the hosplitals have already been taken out. Even if this disease is brought under control tommrow that is a generational problem for many of these areas.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    little_Socrates, I read the CDC and the WHO reports. Where do you get your information?

    The CDC and the WHO are agencies dedicated to protecting the population from disease. When these organizations become suspect, where do you get your reliable information from? Distrust in the African countries have already made it difficult to contain the disease (for instance, exhuming and parading dead bodies through the streets).

  • mana11
    mana11

    Imagine ,,, and all this with only a few patients. What if there were 100 in texas, or 2000 or 10,000, you think they can cope with how many?.

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    The hospitals that treated the health care workers that came from Africa seemed to manage their cases with no spread, it's possible that the Texas hospital was just not adequately prepared. It's a huge wake up call to all hositals, they may not be as prepared as they thought and need to do more training and have the right supplies.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    There's been a suspected Ebola shut-down here in Edmonton and in Ottawa too. A patient with symptoms will be asked if they have spent any time in Africa. Then the lock-down.

    "We want to thank and commend the patient for following recommendations to travellers from affected countries that develop symptoms to call the receiving hospital prior to coming to hospital so that all appropriate infection control measures can be fully implemented prior to the patient's arrival," Ottawa Public Health said in a news release."

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/edmonton/royal-alex-emergency-department-reopens-after-ebola-scare-1.2774057

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ebola-virus-ruled-out-in-ottawa-patient-while-man-in-belleville-still-in-isolation-1.2797055

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ebola-test-on-patient-at-toronto-hospital-comes-back-negative-1.2787721

  • redvip2000
    redvip2000

    Ever sneezed? The famous Myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze – anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.

    Yes, but that's not the same as a disease that is transmitted through the air. You are sneezing, so obviously you are projecting liquid droplets through the air into another person which is different.

    If i take a contaminated latex glove and i throw it at you and it lands on your face and you become infected, did the disease get transmitted through the air?

  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005

    With reference to a sneeze this MIT researcher makes an interesting summary:

    "Most of the larger, heavier drops fall quickly to the floor under the influence of gravity. The smaller and lighter particles (those that are five microns or less across) are less affected by gravity and can stay airborne almost indefinitely as they are caught up in and dispersed by the room's airflow. " see source at following link

    http://preventdisease.com/news/14/040914_MIT-Show-Coughs-Sneezes-Travel-200-Times-Further-Than-Previously-Thought.shtml

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    http://online.wsj.com/articles/scientists-say-ebolas-transmission-route-unlikely-to-have-changed-1413475957

    Remember when everyone was afraid of catching AIDS? True story, I received a complaint from a tenant fearful he could catch AIDS from fruit flies in the bathroom.

    Blood-to-blood contact, fruit fly lands on something bathroom-icky, lands on another person, presto bango another AIDS victim.

    Doesn't work that way, does it?

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