Londo111, Could you explain me please this subject better??
2 reasons the 'overlapping anointed' idea generates no comfort for the WT writers.
by prologos 18 Replies latest social current
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prologos
Yes londo111 and link it to the specific point in the OP that even if it all would be real, The anointed could not be the generation, the wicket puplic are. please.
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Londo111
In a nutshell:
The Watchtower tried to explain the word ‘generation’ in Matthew 24:34 by referencing Exodus 1:6 to support overlapping groups.
However, Matthew was written in Greek and Exodus was written in Hebrew. To understand how the writer of Matthew understood the word generation, we must find out how the writer used the word throughout the book, and in its proper context.
In Matthew 23, in the denunciation of the Pharisees, we find Jesus saying in verse 36, “Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.” What things? The things revolving around the destruction of Jerusalem.
Matthew 24 is a continuation of Matthew 23. Any separation between these chapters, as we all know, is artificial. The narrative of chapter 23 logically continues in chapter 24. The entire context of chapter 24 is the destruction of Jerusalem.
Even verses 2-3 need be read without division: And He said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down.” As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
Therefore, it is in this context, that of the things revolving around the destruction of Jerusalem, that verse 34 says, “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.”
Matthew 24 is set about 30 to 33 CE, while the destruction of Jerusalem was in 70. About 40 years. A generation.
Matthew 1:1-17 totally devastates any idea of an overlapping generation. It lists the generations from Abraham to Jesus. Verse 17 says, “So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; from David to the deportation to Babylon, fourteen generations; and from the deportation to Babylon to the Messiah, fourteen generations.”
Abraham is one generation, Isaac is the second, Jacob is the third, Judah, the fourth and so on. If we do the math, for instance from the deportation to Babylon to the birth of Jesus, it works out to be about roughly 40 years. The word generation is devoid of any sense of multiple overlapping groups.
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AleFer
Prologos: 2030 would not have been sufficient time. The overlapping doctrine gives them another century. -
AleFer
Londo111: Matthew 24 is not set in 30 or 33 CE, secular history tells us that Jesus cannot have died after 29 CE. Ale -
Londo111
Or 29 CE... the above still would apply. -
prologos
- AleFer: " 2030 would not have been sufficient time. The overlapping doctrine gives them another century."not a century but 60 more years and then celebrating the 1975 centennial. Another century would require supercentenarian anointed., not just demented partakers.
- Londo111: "while the destruction of Jerusalem was in 70. About 40 years. A generation.it works out to be about roughly 40 years. The word generation is devoid of any sense of multiple overlapping groups. you nailed it.
- sadly, wt is giving up on 1914, generating overlaps, they know it is a lost cause.
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kaik
Maybe the overlapping generation is the wicked generation, generation that never dies, because people are wicked all the time... Thus, generation can mean entire human biogenesis.
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prologos
kalk: "overlapping generation is the wicked generation, generation that never dies"?
kalk, does the end not mean the destruction of the wicket? so how can it "not pass away" if it never dies. ?
bible, Jesus, Wt are even more contradictory than we ever thought?