This is goos news. Most who stay in don't do much anyway. It's a lifestyle/culture like living islam. I'm glad the Australian kids are leaving. Our education system teaches kids to be critical and it must be working.
"The Waters" of Jehovah are drying up in Australia...65% young ones leave!
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Heaven
Very happifying.
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sir82
A 35% retention rate for JW kids?
That's pretty good - my experience is that it is closer to 20%.
The Aussie JWs are doing better than most of the western world.
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XBEHERE
I also saw a picture of a KM school recently. Almost completely older guys - average age had to be 60+. Long term , the future looks pretty dire - in Europe at least
Not here in my area of the U.S. There are older elders sure but the majority of my BOE and in surrounding congs there is a trend of 30's-40's elders. Many of them pioneers, CO wannabe's who are just waiting for Brother 70yearold to be put to pasture so he can swoop in and take control.
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prologos
steve2 good point in par.3 "it takes them longer to do a territory-" Yeah they are older and have perfected the 'Pioneer-Shuffle'
"JW parents give birth to goats" (evolution happening as we peek?)
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Vidiot
It's not just Australia.
A while back, another JWN member (can't remember which) posted that an American elder he used to know had told him that "young people were leaving in droves".
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steve2
Show me an English-speaking congregation anywhere in Western modern democracies where the young door-knockers outnumber the older ones and I will show you a rare and precious gift, a jewel, a thing of inestimable beauty... to the governing body - but to everyone else, a f*cking mind-blowing exception to the rule.
This religion's active door-knocking legacy had its heyday years ago. Oh, there will always be a kingdom hall close at hand - but active bums on seats will continue to die-off...chronic yawning is bad for mortality.
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Vidiot
Julia Orwell - "Most who stay in don't do much anyway. It's a lifestyle/culture.."
Hmph.
If being a (nominal) JW is a "lifestyle/culture", it doesn't have much going for it, IMO.
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Separation of Powers
Julia' s point is well made. One becomes so indoctrinated that life outside the ORG is "too scary" and so they stay in. In essence, it becomes their culture just as much as the Amish or Yassidic Jew for that matter.
Most, however, are not that way. Most of the kids I see in the hall are not really "witnesses" in the same way I was a "witness" as a young man. They go to clubs, party, drink way more than I ever did at that age, and do absolutely nothing to "promote Kingdom interests." Bethel service is rarely mentioned among the young men. They are interested in what every other young person wants....independence.
I woudl venture to say that when most fly the coop of their parent's supervision, they will rarely if ever be seen at some "theocratic" activity except for assemblies to scope out chicks or get togethers to scope out chicks.
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Ocean1111
In reality the 1-3% growth now in JWs it TOTAL FICTION. I feel they actually dipped below 7 million, and laughingly are selling that to dumbed down JWs as 8 million, yet liquidating a BILLION in global real estate holdings. Thus they could easily sell a negative -1-3% growth just as easy as a measily 1-3% growth. They are at a suspicious margin. And only they produce their own numbers.
In reality the JW waters have been drying from the 1976 GB dam break, and you can check the stats to see 1976 is when the downward spiral began.
Now Bethel claims they are at "apex" of the ministry. They are at apex alright—of stumbled sheep due not to doctrine, but Bethel sin, scandal abd globally public lawlessness. THAT is why JWs are shrinking overall. Thousands are stumbling everyday by Bethel scandals all over the Web, far more than the 800 "coming to the truth" every day. In actual terms the JW growth is pathetic, the only group with worse "believer" retention is the atheists.
Think about it. JWs have THE WORST RETENTION RATE OF ALL THE CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS AND PROBABLY ANY RELIGION ON EARTH, because Bethel is a gnat straining UN NGO camel gulping apostate fraud ministry now.
In reality JWs are shrinking, and that shrinkage is in preparation for the biggest stumbling event of all Christian religious history to soon come on the "JW org". JWs will be lucky to have 3 million left when that hits, Bethel is going down, all the shadow indicative realities are already there.