Does having priveleges in the congregation mean you will have a successful marriage?

by hoser 20 Replies latest jw friends

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  WTWizard

  And I suppose they are going to make being an assistant hounder harder. You have to do things just so in order to not "stumble" someone. You got that silver dime? It might stumble someone, so it has to go. You listen to music that is enjoyable--until someone is stumbled, and it too has to go. Virtually everything is a potential stumbling block. Even that yellow Blunt umbrella, which is named for the blunt spoke ends (no poking out someone's eyes or blowing inside out in light wind) might stumble someone, so you have to get a cheap crap grey one that will poke out eyes and blow inside out in light winds. They don't like that part-canvas field circus bag, you have to get a leather one that is probably less suitable. They don't like that you can launder your suits instead of dry cleaning them (and yes, if you use common sense and a garment bag, you can do it), you may "stumble" someone and need to waste the money dry cleaning them anyways. Even eating strawberries or kiwi fruit could stumble the person visiting from New Zealand where those are used in Christmas celebrations.

  Result: To have sex, you are not allowed to have anything that remotely resembles fun. And, you are restricted in what kind of sex because you could lose those "privileges" if you try something not approved. Besides, if you get someone that is willing to give up everything fun, you are more likely to get a tyrant that more resembles that 98 year old fogey that totally disapproves of anything fun than anything else. (At that, such a person could be only 20 and be more of an old fogey than a real 98 year old).
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  Smiles

  Does having privileges in the cong mean you will have a successul marriage?
  
  No.

  Just ask C.T. Russell, and his wife Maria Frances Ackley. Many "privileged" marriages have failed, or never married because the couple was exposed for premarital fornicating.
  
  If privileged marriages in the org appear to endure longer than other marriages, it is probably due to the fact the privileged couple put on pretenses to keep up appearances so as to protected the beloved privileged status.
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  Theredeemer

  I was an MS about to be named Elder. We were both in the ASL cong serving where the need was great. End result: DIVORCE!
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  Quarterback

  This is so ridiculous. Are young women now to look at Labels, people with badges instead of traits. I strongly oppose AM3's counsel. If you want to marry someone don't be fooled by the uniform. Look inside the person and see if they are kind, generous, honest, loving, forgiving, caring, and if that guy is a MS, try to overlook that.
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  designs

  There is no training program and there is no screening program for the MS and Elders. I was asked before my appointment if I had any hidden sins, that was it, you could make up anything.
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  Vidiot

  hoser - "Does having priveleges in the congregation mean you will have a successful marriage?"

  Nope.

  "Priveleges in the congregation" didn't get me any kind of marriage.

  I had to get off my ass and find that sort of thing myself.
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  OnTheWayOut

  They will say that the MS/Elder that can't keep it in his pants or who beats (verbally and/or physically) his wife is NO TRUE WITNESS. (See "No true Scotsman" on google; http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman)
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  BU2B

  He also stated that if a baptized male is not a MS or Elder without a "really good reason" he is suspect. He explicitly stated that marrying a non appointed man is a "mistake"! My blood boiled. He also alluded to the idea that if you dont hold a rank you are scum when he said that raising 7 kids, 5 of which are appointed, 2 of which are still JW but NOt APPOINTED is a reason for grief over the failure! The message was clear as day! If you arent appointed you are Suspect and a spiritual loser!

  Common sense would tell a woman that its not the title, but the person that counts. Most of the kind loving JW men left are no longer serving.. Spiritual pond scum.
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  FadeToBlack

  How would that work if every brother in the cong was a MS or elder? Would the next step be additional levels of rank like 'Senior MS' - almost an elder. 'Junior MS' - just appointed (Ok to marry but might want to wait). What about the guys that are perpetual MS class - Not deemed worthy enough to move up to the next caste level? Soon it will be only marry elders and then the next step will be, elders can have multiple wives since not enough men are 'spiritual enough'.

  And then they merge with the Mormons.
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  Vidiot

  You know, Fade; it's interesting...

  ...organisms in nature actually do that instinctively to preserve the genome in an envirnment with a dwindling gene pool; polar bears and grizzlies, wolves and coyotes, cro-magnons and neanderthals...