Jan 2015 OKM and those "Untrue Rumours".

by tim hooper 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • tim hooper
    tim hooper

    Why Important: Many that we meet in the
    ministry are polite. However, Jesus prophesied
    that some people will hate us. (John 17:
    14) Therefore, it should not surprise us if we
    encounter an irate householder. When this
    occurs, we want to respond in a way that
    pleases the one whom we represent, Jehovah.
    (Rom. 12:17-21; 1 Pet. 3:15) Doing so will
    likely prevent the situation from escalating.
    It will also give a witness to the householder
    and any observers, making them more inclined
    to listen the next time Jehovah’s Witnesses
    visit.—2 Cor. 6:3.
    Howto Do It:
    ˙ Maintain a calm and friendly demeanor.
    This will help defuse the situation. Do not
    take the householder’s reaction personally.
    (Eccl. 7:9) He may be upset because of
    personal problems or because you happened
    to call at the wrong time. Even if he
    is irritated by ourmessage, often this is because
    he has been misled.—2 Cor. 4:4.
    ˙ Reply with mild and gracious words.
    (Prov.15:1) Did you wake him up or interrupt
    him? Although we do not apologize
    for our work, you could humbly apologize
    for calling at an inopportune time. Is he
    angry because of an untrue rumor that
    he has heard about us? If so, you might
    say: “I can understand why thatwould upset
    you. However, it seems that what you
    have heard about us is not accurate. May I
    explain?” Does he object to one of our beliefs,
    perhaps regarding disfellowshipping
    or blood? You could say: “I understand.
    Others have expressed the same concerns.
    May I show you from the Bible the basis
    for that teaching?”
    ˙ If the person is highly agitated, it may be
    best to take your leave without trying to
    reply. If he asks that Jehovah’sWitnesses
    not visit him again, you can assure him
    that his wishes will be honored.

  • Simon
    Simon

    They admit then that the "beliefs regarding disfellowshipping or blood" are separate to any "untrue rumour" then.

    So they are true.

  • OneEyedJoe
    OneEyedJoe

    Laying the groundwork for the pedo lawsuits to hit the mainstream news it would seem.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    They are going to show the scripture on abstaining from blood . . . but that doesn't counter their acceptance of all of blood, just in parts. They themselves have flipped several times on blood.

    They themselves has flipped on disfellowshipping and shunning.

    So easy for someone who knows a little on JW history of blood and shunning to shed light for the JW.

    Personally, I can't beleive that they actually mentioned "blood and shunning" to the rank and file. It's like "don't look at the Internet". Now, many JWs are going to brush up on the blood and shunning, use the internet, and find the real dirt on the JW's own policy.

  • sir82
    sir82

    “I can understand why that would upset
    you. However, it seems that what you
    have heard about us is not accurate. May I
    explain?”

    Like, oh, I dunno, the JWs have paid out millions of dollars in child abuse settlements, and owe 10's of millions more in lawsuits they have lost? That kind of rumor?

    So what happens when the householder pulls out his smartphone and googles to an article that clearly shows that the "untrue rumor" is in fact, quite true?

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    First of all, to find a householder at home is rare. Second, to find a householder who actually knows the grit on JW blood & disfellowshipping at the first call is going to be even rarer.

    What I think is happening, from my own still-in relatives, is that people from other religions are baiting the JWs into Bible Studies. My relatives live in a place where Baptist is king. They get into heated debates on the Bible, and then the blood and disfellowshipping come out.

    I also think that many JWs don't really believe the blood & disfellowshipping crap. As evidenced by many who get blood when in need. But, this article is about appearances....

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice
    “I understand. Others have expressed the same concerns. May I show you from the Bible the basis for that teaching?”

    Oh, myyyyyyyyy. I'd love to see them do that!

    I would expect this response instead...

    it may be best to take your leave without trying to reply.

    Unbelievable nonsense yet again from the mouthpiece of god himself.

  • OneEyedJoe
    OneEyedJoe

    If he asks that Jehovah’sWitnesses not visit him again, you can assure him that his wishes will be honored.

    footnote - his wishes will be honored for a year, after which time some elders will come by and bug him to make sure he still has no interest in joining a cult. As it turns out, it would probably be a year between visits normally, so you might just assure him that his request will in no way change the frequency of the visits, just who is doing the visiting.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Untrue rumors? Such as the NGA status with the United Nations? The pedo lawsuits? Rutherford's mansion? Rutherford's 1925 prophecies and every WT book, article, etc older than 6 months?

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    Yeah. What about the TRUE rumours?

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