So at the meeting a few weeks ago the speaker was having a talk about inactive people and then he went on about how people think the God of the old testament was cruel and genocidal. He then said that God did not commit genocide because everything he did was for a reason. I was shocked at how stupid that saying was. How can you not think he is he commited genocide if he flooded the entire earth? crazy how Jws cannot see this. Do you think God was genocidal?
God is not genocidal
by mistified 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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cofty
Yes the god of the OT was a genocidal maniac.
It is amazing the way some believers will perform ethical gymnastics to justify anything...
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skeeter1
Loving Jehovah. Amazingly, people say that they have a reason for a killing too! Even Hitler was justified. The formula throughout history is: 1) Make the people your enemy via talk, 2) Kill in the name of justice.
- See more at: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html#sthash.TAHfzaH3.dpuf
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Coded Logic
Genocidal maniac! Deuteronomy 7
" When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you, 2 and when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. . . But the LORD your God will deliver them before you, and will throw them into great confusion until they are destroyed."
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Captain Obvious
Well... In big J's defense, he wasn't very good at genocide.
How many times did he kill all the Canaanites/amalekites/etc?
If he killed them all the first time, he wouldn't need to hit them with another genocide... if any of those things really happened they weren't recorded very well
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AndDontCallMeShirley
God did not commit genocide because everything he did was for a reason
Many a human tyrant has killed millions/tens of millions using the same excuse...
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sparrowdown
I'm shocked that you find the dumbness of JWs so shocking.
BTW what was the connection with inactive ones that the talk was supposedly about?
Just wondering.
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blondie
I wouldn't consider killing one person, genocide.
But the bible says God did order the Israelities to destroy the Canaanites (though they failed to do that)
and the Amalekites (King Saul failed on that one; Haman was an Amalekite but did they all die during Mordecai's attempt)
(Deuteronomy 20:16, 17) 16 It is only of the cities of these peoples that Jehovah your God is giving you as an inheritance that you must not preserve any breathing thing alive, 17 because you should without fail devote them to destruction, the Hit ′ tites and the Am ′ or·ites, the Ca ′ naan·ites and the Per ′ iz·zites, the Hi ′ vites and the Jeb ′ u·sites, just as Jehovah your God has commanded you;
(1 Samuel 15:17-19) 17 And Samuel went on to say: “Was it not when you were little in your own eyes that you were head of the tribes of Israel, and Jehovah proceeded to anoint you as king over Israel? 18 Later Jehovah sent you on a mission and said, ‘Go, and you must devote the sinners, the A·mal ′ ek·ites, to destruction, and you must fight against them until you will have exterminated them.’ 19 So why is it you did not obey the voice of Jehovah but went darting greedily at the spoil and doing what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah?”
Yet here is a case of speaking out of both sides of the WTS mouth:
*** ct chap. 8 p. 133 The Creator Reveals Himself—To Our Benefit! ***
Jehovah in his balanced justice determined that the land needed to be cleansed. This was not genocide. Canaanites, both individuals such as Rahab and whole groups such as the Gibeonites, who voluntarily accepted God’s high moral standards were spared. (Joshua 6:25; 9:3-15)
*** w12 1/1 p. 29 She Acted Wisely, Bravely, and Selflessly ***
A Bible prophecy was thus fulfilled, for God had earlier foretold the complete destruction of the Amalekites, who had proved to be wicked enemies of his people. (Deuteronomy 25:17-19) The sons of Haman may well have been among the very last of that condemned nation.
*** w10 1/1 p. 14 Why Did God Wage War Against the Canaanites? ***
Yet, instead of immediately wiping them out, he patiently allowed 400 years to pass until their error had “come to completion.”—Genesis 15:16.
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punkofnice
God did not commit genocide because everything he did was for a reason.
Everybody does things for a reason but it doesn't make it right.
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designs
My brother, who is an Elder, is a big proponent of God's right to kill. Go get em Allah Akbar....