Hi gda :)
I have a question - if it requires magic to make it work in any way, why not just use magic to get rid of the bad people and avoid the flood altogether?
Giant ship vs Noah's Ark
by Simon 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Simon
Yes, why even attempt some 'believable' (not really) story if it relies so much on 'magic happens here'.
You could just as well have god pressing a cosmic "That was Easy !" button from Staples of the Universe.
The same arguments happen with creation where people start claiming god could have created all the light rays coming from the stars and put dinosaur bones in the ground.
At some point you have to question if it's meant to be a plausible explanation for anything or people are just clinging to something against all reason.
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poopsiecakes
I think it's the clingy bit, Simon - it certainly was for me!
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freddo
Why couldn't Noah have used contract labour? Just asking...
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problemaddict 2
That is some dangerous independant thinking poopsiecakes.
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poopsiecakes
I know, I know. I should be taken into the back room and spanked or something.
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Vidiot
poopsiecakes - "I should be taken into the back room and spanked or something."
If I were single, I'd offer.
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Simon
That's one big catamaran!
Quick everyone, lean over the side to spin it round ...
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Socrateswannabe
This is the issue that started me down the road toward learning TTAT.
A ship the size of Noah's ark could never have fit all the animals that the bible says it did and could not have contained all the types of food and environmental requirements of the divers animals said to be onboard. Realistically for this feat to have been accomplished, the ark would have had to be the size of a small town. So yes, Simon, I agree that even the Peter Schelte would be too small.
More research proved to me that a family of eight people could not have built even the undersized vessel that the bible describes. The amount of material needed would have required an army of workers given the tools and raw materials available to them at that time. Let's say that Noah and his family defied all odds and actually did build it themselves, it wouldn't have mattered because the ark wouldn't have floated, or it would not have stayed afloat. Ships the size of the ark didn't appear until modern times because it takes a steel superstructure for the vessel to be seaworthy. A wood keel and superstructure would have folded like a house of cards under the pressure of the flood. Further, wood degenerates so that by the time Noah finished building the ark, most of what he had built would have rotted in the interim.
This story always seemed fishy to me but I'm ashamed that it took me years to see it for what it is, a complete sham.
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Vidiot
Socrateswannabe - "... I'm ashamed that it took me years to see it for what it is, a complete sham."
Don't be.
Like all of us (to various degrees), you had a vested interest at the time in viewing the Ark story as literal...
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...and that vested interest was (for various reasons) the emotional need for WT cosmology to be right.