Reinstatement - repentance - works - Can you explain how this is supposed to work?

by berrygerry 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • blondie
    blondie

    Indirectly the WTS has conditioned jws to connect the prodigal son with reinstatement but note the 10 year condition.

    *** w98 10/1 p. 17 par. 16 Imitate Jehovah’s Mercy ***

    The parable of the prodigal makes it clear that Jehovah desires erring ones to return to him. Indeed, he holds the invitation out to them until they prove themselves beyond hope. (Ezekiel 33:11; Malachi 3:7; Romans 2:4, 5; 2 Peter 3:9) Like the prodigal’s father, Jehovah treats with dignity those who do return, accepting them back as full-fledged members of the family. Are you imitating Jehovah in this regard? When a fellow believer, who for a time was disfellowshipped, is reinstated, how do you respond? We already know that there is “joy in heaven.” (Luke 15:7) But is there joy on earth, in your congregation, even in your heart? Or, as with the older son in the parable, is there some resentment, as if no welcome is merited for one who should not have left God’s flock in the first place?

    *** w91 4/15 p. 25 pars. 20-21 Imitate God’s Mercy Today ***

    Another area for showing mercy opens when an expelled one is reinstated. Jesus’ illustrations highlight the joy in heaven when ‘one sinner repents.’ (Luke 15:7, 10) Paul wrote to the Corinthians regarding the man that had been disfellowshipped: “You should kindly forgive and comfort him, that somehow such a man may not be swallowed up by his being overly sad. Therefore I exhort you to confirm your love for him.” (2 Corinthians 2:7, 8) Let us apply that advice soberly and lovingly in the days and weeks after a person is reinstated.

    21 Jesus’ illustration of the prodigal son brings up a danger that we need to avoid. The older brother did not rejoice at the prodigal’s return but was resentful. May we not be like that, harboring ill will over a past wrong or begrudging a person’s being reinstated. Rather, our goal is to be like the father, who illustrated Jehovah’s response. The father was happy that his son, who was lost and seemed as good as dead, was found, or came to life. (Luke 15:25-32) Accordingly, we will freely speak to the reinstated brother and otherwise encourage him. Yes, we should make it evident that we are showing mercy, as our forgiving and merciful heavenly Father does.—Matthew 5:7.

    *** w91 8/15 p. 28 Do You Remember? ***

    How does Jesus’ illustration of the prodigal son show what our feelings and actions should be when someone is reinstated in the Christian congregation? (Luke 15:22-32)

    Our goal ought to be to imitate the father, who showed happiness at the return of his prodigal son. Hence, we should freely speak with the reinstated brother and encourage him now to make progress in the truth.—4/15, page 25.

    *** w65 8/15 pp. 496-497 pars. 17-18 Turning to Jehovah ***

    Many individuals even among the remnant of Christ’s joint heirs as well as among the “other sheep” class have at some time in their lives taken a course like that of the prodigal son. After dedicating themselves to Jehovah, they later left their Father’s house, and some of them even did things requiring disfellowshiping them from the congregation. These were disfellowshiped, but since then they have shown true repentance and have returned to the congregation of Jehovah God and have acknowledged both to it and to their heavenly Father the error of their way. They have repented and changed their course of action. Some of them may have been living in fornication or adultery, but now they have manifested the spirit that the prodigal son had when he returned to the house of his father; they have shown the right heart condition, prayed to their Father to forgive them and have come back and asked to be allowed to be slaves in Jehovah’s organization. Those who have shown true repentance, like the prodigal son, are rejoicing again because of having been reinstated in the congregation. Now they are showing a humble disposition and, along with those who remained in the house of their Father, they are again proclaiming the good news of God’s kingdom.

    18 Those who have received the forgiveness of their Father and who have humbly proved themselves to be good slaves after returning from their unclean, disfellowshiped condition may in time even prove to be suitable stewards in their Father’s household. Over an extensive period of time they live down the blotch of reproach that they have brought on their personal record, with bad impressions also upon people on the outside. If, because of the blameless conduct of one since his reinstatement, the congregation has come to view him as a good example, then if such a person, who was at one time disfellowshiped but has now returned and shown humility, proved his love for Jehovah’s Word and work for ten years after reinstatement, it would be in harmony with the parable of the prodigal son if such one were used as a congregation book study conductor and allowed to give public talks. Later, he may even be privileged to serve in a greater capacity in Jehovah’s organization. If, since his reinstatement, he has proved himself to be an example to the flock of God during ten years of faithful service, and if the congregation committee sees that such a one can be given a greater privilege of service, why not grant it to him? If he has demonstrated that now he is going to stay in the house of his Father for good, and that he is loyal in his devotion to the interests of that house, it would seem that he could safely be entrusted again with greater responsibility in the congregation of Jehovah’s people.

  • J-DUBBED
    J-DUBBED

    I thought this site was all about "Getting Out" not "Getting Back In"...............

  • Separation of Powers
    Separation of Powers

    If you are disfellowshipped and desire reinstatement, the following suggestions may help: (satirical purposes only)

    1) Start attending meetings regularly. All the meetings. Sit in a conspicuous spot, preferably the last seat in the last row, close to the aisle. Never cross your legs as this can be construed as comfortable and DFing is all about discomfort.

    2) Underline every magazine, book or booklet that is considered. Yellow highlighter works best, orange is acceptable, blue and green are not. This includes printouts from references used in the meeting. Make sure you have the approved bookbag as well. NOT an attache, any self-respecting bigwig would not use an attache nor should you.

    3) Listen attentively. When something funny is said, don't laugh, smile and look down, be part of the group but not. The group can laugh because the funny comment is only understood as funny by the "group." You are not part of the group but wish you were.

    4) Get to the meeting early enough to sit down BEFORE the song starts, but not too early that you have to make eye contact with anyone, even children. Look sad, but not devastated, a blank stare works well before and after the meeting, but not a drunken stupor stare, just a blank stare.

    5) If someone approaches you before or after the meeting, simply say, "I am sorry. I am disfellowshipped." Nothing else. These are sometimes tests and believe me, even if they are not, someone is watching. They are always watching.

    6) Examine the newest magazines. Any pictures of meetings in progress will tell you how you must dress and how you must groom yourself. It is true, you are not part of the congregation, but to be accepted back into the congregation, you must LOOK like the quintessential Witness. Although not in the magazine, you already know...no tight pants, no colorful socks, and definitely NO SPANXX.

    7) You will probably have to wait at least 6 months before you make a request for reinstatement. This is best done in writing (New Times Roman at font size 12, single spaced, not overly verbose). This time span is a minimum for most JC's. If you have missed any meetings, this will probably extend it a bit. Remember, it is OK if the elders, MS, or their wives miss the meetings, they are already in. Don't keep records of who is there and who is not, and especially don't EVER bring this up to anybody as it will probably leak back to someone on the JC.

    8) If you are granted an audience, remember this is a formality. It does not mean that you will be reinstated. The decision may have been decided before the meeting ever takes place, so be patient. At the meeting, the JC that dealt with you initially may be the same one that DF'd you, they know your situation. Be respectful and courteous. Some of the questions may be obvious, so obvious in fact that you may want to laugh....DON"T! Every response must be a reflection of how the sin has affected the relationship with Jehovah, his congregation, other witnesses. You must make mention of how saddened you are by what was done, a few tears or tearful eyes with a handy hankercheif in your pocket or used tissue works well here. Don't freak out! Excessive crying or overt emotion may be construed as mental problems and the JC is not equipped to deal with mental problems.

    9) At the end of the audience, thank them for meeting with you and apologize to them for having disrupted their evening, afternoon, etc. Tell them that you really appreciate them and that you realize now what a blessing they are and that you didn't really appreciate them before. If you can't do this sounding convincing and sincere, just excuse yourself and say thanks, clutching your bible to your chest with one hand and wiping the last tear from your eyes with the used up tissue. Before you leave, clutch the Bible tightly again, but, never kiss the bible...that's just wrong on too many levels.

    10) Wait for the reponse. If the answer is no then wait a few months, rinse and repeat.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Are disfellowshipped persons allowed to make contributions to the world wide work?

    WT never refuses money...from anyone. Ever.

    Donations from a DF, "unrepentent" person spend just as sweetly as those from an uber 80-year old Pioneer's estate she previously intended to will to her children.

  • sparky1
    sparky1

    The disfellowshipping arrangement as it stands right now is pure MANMADE bull$hit and is not in any way, shape or form based on Biblical precedent. Read the account of the incestuous man in 1 Corinthians 5:1-13 and see that Paul said to 'remove the wicked man from among yourselves' (disfellowship). Then read the account in 2 Corinthians 2:1-11 where the Apostle Paul says to 'welcome him back so that he is not overreached by Satan'(reinstate). There is nothing stated there about 'works of repentance', meeting attendance, field service, etc. and nothing about him petitioning the Elders for reinstatement. In fact, 1 Corinthians and 2 Corinthians were written in THE SAME YEAR,55 C.E.. So the 'brother' who had an incestuous sexual relationship with his fathers wife was disfellowshipped for LESS THAN 1 YEAR!

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    While WT has historically condemned the Catholic Church for its practice of confessing sins and receiving absolution from priests, really, how different is the arrangement when a JW is forced to confess sin and receive 'absolution' from the elders?

    If a JW confesses to god (scriptural), and god forgives a repentant person (scriptural), then the intecession of an elder is not only unscriptural but wholly without basis even within the context of WT fantasy. If a person confesses to god, begs for forgiveness and god forgives, the matter is concluded.

    As sparky1 pointed out, most of the things a JW can be DF for are not scriptural but manmade WT rules, and the entire process of works performed for a year or more to "prove" your repentance definitely is without any scriptural basis whatsoever.

  • Terry
    Terry

    DesirousofChange

    We're talking about reinstatement here. WTF does the Prodigal Son have to do with anything concerning reinstatement. Get real, Terry!

    _______________________

    Who peed in your Cheerios this morning?

    Thanks Blondie.

  • Separation of Powers
  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    DesirousofChange

    We're talking about reinstatement here. WTF does the Prodigal Son have to do with anything concerning reinstatement. Get real, Terry!

    Who peed in your Cheerios this morning?

    SATIRE, TERRY, SATIRE.

    Or maybe HYPERBOLE (hyper-bowl when they read it at our WT Study).

    I just think it's a crock of S&%T that they pretend to follow Jesus' parable. The so obviously following nothing about the Prodigal.

    Cheers!

    Doc

  • committeechairman
    committeechairman

    I think SloppyJoe comes closest to what, mechanically, will convince a committee to reinstate. This is not a comment on the disfellowshipping arrangement which I wish would just go away.

    CC

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