You gots to $-PAY-$ for that Dateline Show!

by Tallyman 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    Now, let's just hold on here!

    I see all these posts about getting COPIES of the NBC "Dateline" show
    aired Tuesday night about the jehovah Witnesses and pedophiles/rapists...
    and posters here are ACTUALLY REQUESTING that others send them FREE COPIES
    of that program which is NBC's INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY!

    How Dare They!

    Or worse yet, some are posting here that they would be willing to PAY,
    not NBC, but those who TAPED THE SHOW on their VCR, and are making COPIES
    of THE FRUITS OF NBC's LABOUR - TOTALLY circumventing the payment which
    should go to NBC - and saying they'd pay for COPIES of COPIES of COPIES,
    which Someones TAPED ILLEGALLY ON THEIR VCR- ! : : : g a s p ! : : :

    Nevermind that it would help MANY people, and possibly open the eyes
    of jWs who didn't watch the show, but now, so many here want their jW
    relatives or friends to view the "Dateline" show... and to pass around
    as many copies of that Watchtower Expose as they can to HELP people-
    kind of like the Free Interchange of Information on the Internet-
    (or, how the Internet USED to be)
    Nevermind that!
    You HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PRIVILEGE of VIEWING NBC's INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY!

    HOW MANY PIRATES do we have here??? It is STUNNING to see the threads
    which are encouraging the THEFT & DISTRIBUTION of NBC's PROPERTY.
    NBC worked HARD on that show!
    They deserve, not only to be credited, but to BE PAID FOR THAT SHOW.

    Now, if you were one of the Lucky Ones, who actually sat in front
    of the Television on Tuesday Night, and watched the show in Real Time,
    as it was aired in primetime, and sat through the mandatory commercials
    which helped NBC to PAY FOR THE PRODUCTION of that Dateline piece on jWs...
    then you and ONLY YOU ALL were entitled to see that show, for FREE-
    (but the sponsors hope you go out and buy the products they advertised)

    You DID NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO TAPE that Dateline show on VideoCassetteTapeRecorder!
    If you did that, DESTROY your tape, IMMEDIATELY!
    That was ILLEGAL, if you did that.
    You "LIFTED" (STOLE)(You are a THIEF!) that Dateline show if you taped it.
    You cannot DISTRIBUTE that NBC Intellectual Property to others,
    even though your intent is to Sincerely Help Others To Be Informed...
    and you certainly cannot ACCEPT MONIES for that PIRATED TAPE!!!!!
    No matter what!

    I just CANNOT Believe The LAW-BREAKERS I see on this forum!!
    Simon, HOW can you ALLOW such ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES to take place??

    And a TRANSCRIPT of the Dateline Show?
    PAY FOR IT!
    Don't you DARE COPY IT and distribute it to others to try and help them,
    inform them, open their eyes to the wickedness of the Watchtower!
    DON'T!
    Even if your Motive is Sincere, you are BREAKING THE LAW!
    THAT is the ALL-IMPORTANT thing.
    To pay $$$BUCKS$$$!
    PAY UP!

    Why, I bet some of you PIRATES and CRIMINALS here, are actually thinking
    of getting a 12th-Generation-Copy of that Dateline show - VIDEO or TRANSCRIPT -
    and actually putting it up, or some of it up, on YOUR OWN WEBPAGE,
    in order to FREELY SHARE that INFORMATION to alert and help others!
    DON'T EVEN *THINK* ABOUT IT!

    Now, yesterday I LEARNED MY LESSON! Yes, I did!
    A Litigious Entity named "Diane Wilson" flew into my emailbox,
    and threatened me, called me a thief, said I faced consequences
    for my actions, hinted at a lawsuit and ended by giving me an ULTIMATUM...
    all, because, for three years, I had made and uploaded a webpage
    from information given to me by an anonymous source which dealt with
    the Watchtower's changing view of how a woman should react if Raped,
    and in THREE YEARS TIME, no one ever objected, in fact, just the opposite,
    I was told the webpage was helpful to many who viewed it.

    I never claimed credit for the information on the webpage.
    Hell, half of it was direct quotes out of Watchtower literature,
    and then some commentary on those quotes.
    I credited an ANONYMOUS SOURCE. I never received PAYMENT?!?
    I did it as A PUBLIC SERVICE FOR OTHERS, and paid out of my own pocket
    for the Web Space to Display that "WTRape" to my ISP.

    "Taking Credit" for anything I've ever put out on the Internet
    has never been important to me. The ALL-IMPORTANT thing to me,
    is that the information that can help others gets out,
    and is distributed as widely as possible. Period.

    Well, This Hard-Ass, named "Diane Wilson" sure set me straight yesterday.
    She wants her CREDIT. She wants her MONEY. She wants to $ELL a Book.
    She has a BIG EGO to feed, yessirree!

    So, NOT-Per-Her-"Request"... I put up a BRAND-NEW & REVISED Webpage
    just for the "true author, Diane Wilson" :

    * http://www.intrex.net/talley/WTRape.html

    There are others, here, like "Diane Wilson" who feel the same as she does,
    like Funky Derek and Stacy and I don't know who all else-

    * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28897&site=3

    who think that She is ENTITLED TO BE PAID FOR THE FRUITS OF HER LABOUR...
    and that HORROR of HORRORS, to think that someone might benefit FOR FREE
    from anything she wrote! Or to Not BE CREDITED! UNACCEPTABLE!
    ... uhh, except, if you want to be a Pharisee about all that,
    and follow the 'letter of the law',
    it is MIGHTY E-Z to slip into Hypocrisy, as I called FunkyDerek's hand on,
    but of course, he tried to rationalize his way out of my observation
    of HIS LIFTING of someone ELSE'S INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY,
    THEIR LABOUR FRUIT, With-OUT them BEING PAID!

    Funkyman? Got yer ears on? "Happy Birthday To You" is just a few lines, too,
    yet it is copyrighted, and the "true author" of it, or his/her heirs
    must be paid a Royalty Fee every time it is sung.

    - - -

    So, about this "Dateline" piece on Watchtower/jW pedophilia/rapists,etc.-
    just remember, you have TO PAY to WATCH THAT 1/2 Hour Show.

    Thankfully, not all here are COPYRIGHT CRIMINALS, and at least one person
    put up a thread about ORDERING THE TAPE DIRECT from NBC "Dateline"'s website.

    OKAY! That way, they get PAID for the Fruits of Their Labours.

    But hold on, the ONLY person ENTITLED LEGALLY to WATCH the Dateline Tape
    they ordered and paid for, is ONLY the ONE person who paid for it.
    NO ONE ELSE is Allowed To View!
    Dammit!
    Am I getting through to you people??

    If you Did NOT watch Dateline as it was aired Tuesday night,
    then you are out of luck, except if you order a PERSONAL COPY of the tape.
    But ONLY YOU ALONE can View It.
    No one ELSE paid any money to watch that tape the INDIVIDUAL ordered.
    THEY have to PAY FOR and ORDER their OWN Copy of Dateline!

    What do you want to do?
    ROB "Dateline" of the MONEY THEY should be making???
    By "sharing" your personal, legitimately ordered and paid for tape
    of the Dateline show with them?
    NO!
    NOT ALLOWED.
    ONE-TAPE / ONE-VIEWING-PER-PERSON WHO INDIVIDUALLY PAYS For the Tape.
    Although,
    I guess, to be a little liberal, and a little less capitalistic,
    the person who Ordered and Paid For THEIR OWN personal copy
    of the Dateline Show through the proper channels,
    with all the right people getting PAID,
    then that "owner" of the tape, can view the tape, ALONE, more than
    one time. IOW, that ONE person has the right to view the tape
    over and over if she or he wants to do so,
    BUT NO ONE ELSE WHO DID NOT $$$-PAY-$$$ MONEY FOR THE TAPE or TRANSCRIPT
    is entitled to view it!

    NO EXCEPTIONS!

    Now, I'm just as sorry as I can be if I'm 'raining on your parade plans',
    but you know NOW, and even though your intent was to HELP OTHERS
    by SHARING that tape with those who could REALLY BENEFIT by
    seeing it, YOU CANNOT BREAK THE LAW & INFRINGE ON COPYRIGHT to do
    what some of you, MANY of you are talking about doing.

    Sorry.

    The best you can hope for now, is to WAIT and see if "Dateline"
    re-broadcasts the piece on jWs and the "pedophile paradise",
    and be sitting Directly in Front of YOUR OWN TELEVISION set
    to watch it as it is being aired, and be sure to watch the commercials, too!

    Now, now, NO HYPROCRISY Allowed!

    Let's be Consistent, people.

    Let's not be DisHonest, people.

    Let's be good, little, law-abiding Capitalists.

    Have-A-Nice-Day!

    LOve, Tallyman

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf

    --
    Bad times, hard times - this is what people keep saying; but let us live well, and times shall be good. We are the times: Such as we are, such are the times. - St. Augustine, 354-430

  • SYN
    SYN

    Tallyman, this is the RIAA. We want to hire you!

    "Vaccination has never saved a human life. It does not prevent smallpox." The Golden Age, Feb 4 1931 p. 293-4 - The Sacredness of Human Blood (Reasons why vaccination is unscriptural)

  • SYN
    SYN

    Tallyman: Damn, but that page you wrote is FUNNY! Keep strong in God's work now!

    "Vaccination has never saved a human life. It does not prevent smallpox." The Golden Age, Feb 4 1931 p. 293-4 - The Sacredness of Human Blood (Reasons why vaccination is unscriptural)

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    FunkyDerek:

    http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf

    --
    Bad times, hard times - this is what people keep saying; but let us live well, and times shall be good. We are the times: Such as we are, such are the times. - St. Augustine, 354-430

    Now, Funkyman, you CopyriteCriminal, you!

    STOP trying to rationalize your way out of the jam you're in!

    HEY! hows the hell you gonna PAY a Royalty Fee to Saint Augustine?!?

    LOve, Tallyman

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    SIN:

    Tallyman, this is the RIAA. We want to hire you!
    Hey, what can I say, I'm jes trying to make sure THE LAW is enforced.

    Psssst. WHAT is RIAA, and what kinda pay we talking here?

    I'm easy you know.
    I'm used to doing Things For FREE!

    LOve, Tallyman

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    Tallyman,

    I don't really have anything to say on the rights or wrongs of copyright law, but it's best to be aware of it if you're posting sensitive material. Crediting the author is always a good idea.
    As regards St. Augustine, even the most restrictive copyright laws only apply up to 70 years after death, so I think I'm in the clear on that one.

    --
    Bad times, hard times - this is what people keep saying; but let us live well, and times shall be good. We are the times: Such as we are, such are the times. - St. Augustine, 354-430

  • SYN
    SYN

    http://www.riaa.com

    Recording Industry Association of America

    You know, the guys who killed Napster and are in the process of nailing Kazaa?

    "Vaccination has never saved a human life. It does not prevent smallpox." The Golden Age, Feb 4 1931 p. 293-4 - The Sacredness of Human Blood (Reasons why vaccination is unscriptural)

  • peterstride
    peterstride

    For those who want to check for themselves to see if this is really the Dateline show on-line, just right click on the following URL and save it to your hard drive!

    http://12.239.160.163/elsewhere/DatelineNBCMay28_2002.htm

    After you've verified that it is indeed the Dateline NBC show, you must delete it off your hard drive! (wink wink)

    Peter

  • Cassiline
    Cassiline

    Dear Tally,

    I was just reading your thread about Diane Wilson, it seems strange to me that YOUR information has been available for what 3 years now? And along comes this woman claiming YOU have plagiarized her work. WTF?? Who the hell is to say THAT she DID not copy your work!!!!!!! And now to cover her butt with her book coming out, notice her book copyright 2002,( the material was not copyrighted until this year!!) not 1999 when you first posted the material.

    I find it amusing I see it as her trying to cover her ass, because she may have copied YOU!!!
    Why does she just now come out with these allegations? Why not 3 years ago? She just accidentally stumbled across it the other day? BULL she is full of it IMO and trying to cover her own butt.

    I know of several other Xjw sites who have quoted your info, NEVER once did I see anyone SAY, "hey that's my writing where did you get it from"?? And since she is out you would assume she has been to xjw sites over and over.

    I would NOT GIVE her credit for anything MHO. Unless she can verify she was the writer of the anon emal you recieved.

    Does your site show when Information was posted? If it does you challenge her. She IMO copied your info used it as her own and now wants credit. I for one can attest to how long I have know of its existence.

    Sorry for rambling,
    Hugs for all the hard work you do,
    Cassi

    C

    When the pain of being where we are, becomes greater than our fear of letting go...we will risk and heal and grow.

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