by Tenacious 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
I don't believe for a second that the WTS can be God's chosen organization, if he does have an earthly one, especially one with such a hypocritical past. But the question begs; why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the WTS?
Does anyone know or have heard of other denominations having the genuine heavenly calling?
I have heard that the heavenly calling is an "intense and overwhelming feeling of wanting to be with God and not on earth".
why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the WTS?
For the same reason this person believes he is a leopard. 
I have been thinking about this and I think that some people are praying so much that they are entering a meditative state. Meditation can cause a release in endorphins, the feel good hormones, and some people in very deep meditation can have an altered state of consciousness. Naturally since they are religious they associate these feelings with being from Jehovah.
I believe that is also what happens to people in Pentecostal religions, they expect to speak in tongues, so that is the direction it takes for them.
I meditate, and do feel a mild euphoria and increased focus, but not an altered consciousness. I don't know if I am not doing it enough or if I am not the kind of person that experiences this
I've always wondered why, if one believes in God, wouldn't you want to be with God. Right where he is. I mean, wherever that is, it must be pretty fantastic. Anything that's good enough for God must be crazy awesome for us? Also, wouldn't you want to see God? Who doesn't wish to ever see or be close to ones Father?
The GB are just those wolves in sheeps clothing the bible talks about, that will try to close the heavens for everyone else.
steve2 - The world is brim-full of people who believe with utter conviction the most God-stupid ideas imaginable.
Yep. Been there, done that. Got the scars to prove it.
I just find it odd that out of the 8 million + that attended the memorial almost 14,000 of these would take a sip and a bite.
Mildly meditating can only do so much for a person. Deep meditation can certainly bring about an almost euphoric peaceful state.
Speaking in tongues and yet teaching biblical falsities is not from God so I would rule the Pentis out.
That still leaves the 14k and counting.
Good post... Here is one perspective...
My Mother started partaking about 33 years ago. My Mother is a very creative, intelligent, and emotional person. She puts her whole heart and mind into everything she does. And, most importantly, she needs to feel "special". I think being anointed is sometimes a "personality" type. If she was in a different religion she would probably speak in tongues, handle snakes, or some other thing. In addition, once she started partaking a number of other people started partaking for some time. Kind of like "anointed fever". It was absolutely bizarre to watch.
On a side note, at the time she started partaking, it was almost considered a sign of insanity (possibly apostasy) that someone so young could partake. We were treated pretty badly by others in the KH. Ironically, she is now older than almost all of the GB members that partake.
We were treated pretty badly by others in the KH.
Yep, that sounds about right. If her partaking did not fit in with the current WTS narrative I can definitely see this.
I'm sorry you had to experience this. These maggots think they have the right to dictate someone else's spirituality.
I haven't really had anyone answer with any real substance to my question. I find it very striking that these people would "feel" the need to partake. And they happen to be JW's.
Jesus never spoke of such a thing and we never see his disciples speaking of such a thing.
There was not centralized earthly entity in which Christs disciples would be taught. In fact, Christ said that "he" is the way, not any human or religious organization.
The Apostles understood this well as Paul states at Hebrews 13:13-14 said that no such "city" (organization) had arrived yet. That we await its coming.
Let us, then, go forth to him outside the camp, bearing the reproach he bore, or we do not have here a city that continues, but we are earnestly seeking the one to come.
Notice that we are not told to go INTO or to join a city (organization), but rather GO OUT TO where Christ suffered. Christ had no place of organization (city) to go into and neither would his disciples until his kingdom of 1000 years would arrive. Christs kingdom is yet future. If it was here at present, Jesus promised a condemned man - now dead more than 2000 years - that he would be in that kingdom. Where is he? Certainly he would have something to say. Well, that man is still in his grave awaiting that promise. (John 5:28-29)
There is no earthly organization, no 144000, no 666, no wild beast, no good news message, etc as these things have not arrived yet. The figs on the trees are not ripe yet. This is not the season or time period Christ was referring to. He was referring to the time period AFTER his 1000 year kingdom would end and Satan is released from his prison. Plus, God's kingdom will not come down to the earth until after Christs 1000 year kingdom ends and Satan's wild beast ascends, is established on the earth, runs it course and then ends. (Rev 20:6-8 and Rev 21:1-2)
The WTBTS and other so-called Christian organizations have completely misled the world and has created their own prophetic time-tables and millions have subscribed to them.
Yet, Jesus was clear about what he said at Matthew 24:42:
Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.Unfortunately the Watch Tower organization has not listened to the Master and HAS published a date, 1914. Essentially thumbing its finger at The Most High and His Son by stating that they KNOW! They know what Christ says that he does not know nor the angels. (Matthew 24:36 and Acts 1:7)
