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DB

Welcome Bono!

I am an active jw as well. I come here because I do have questions and comments that I dare not make on a board used exclusively by jws. Such matters cannot be discussed freely in the congregation either.

I have met some fine folks here, and I have discovered that, as you alluded to, there are people here who love God but who have some major problems with the jw faith. You'll find all kinds of backrounds and attitudes here, and I find that to be a good thing. Yes, there are times when the discussions are not as well "balanced" as a jw might wish for, but overall, I like this board alot. Like Violet said, I too can't seem to stay away for long.

Have a great day!...p.s.....I also post under the name jack2

"Without compassion, there can be no end to hate" - Billy Joel

bonovox

Hi Violet, Soledad!

Violet you mentioned the silent lambs issue, this is the child abuse problem, right? I think that the abuse of a child is just the most abhorrent thing on earth, and let me tell you, if ANYONE ever touched my kids, elder, ms, gb, whatever, I wouldnt be waiting for a committee, police, nothing to exact vengeance for that one. Normally Im a pacifist by nature but I'd probably flip out, go to jail and take my chances with Jah at Armageddon for that kind of b.s.

Ok that was over the top, but really, and maybe Ive been away too long, but I've never been able to understand how the parents can be convinced/brainwashed/whatever not to involve the police immediately. As far as I can see, these assholes should never get to the committee stage because the parents of their victims should be making sure they get arrested and put in jail as soon as it happens..like dont these people have a brain of their own? As for the mother who ignores or overlooks her husband abusing their kids, she is a sick woman, just as sick as he is, and the both of them deserve to be locked away - him in jail and her in a mental institution. But to be fair, that crap happens in every religion and walk of life, its seems. Its a psychological issue, to me really not a religious one. But I think that since the Dateline show there is going to be alot less 'forgiving and forgetting' within the ranks. People *must* be smarter than that!

PS...Soledad, are you *sure* you're looking fwd to more from my big mouth?? LOL...

Soledad

Anxiously!!

VioletAnai

I totally agree Bonovox!

The happiness of my kids comes first, not saving the face of the wtbts and Jehovah! Jah can take care of his own name thankyou! He is all powerful afterall.

Bonovox, again, please put your relationship with God first, He will take you from strength to strength all you need is faith! I luv him, but I can't luv his 'earthly reps', just as I'm sure alot of israelites felt injustice at the corrupt pharisee's before Jah cleansed them before Jeruselim's destruction.

Guest 77

bonovox, no relation to Sonny I gather. Welcome and may I suggest you get yourself a box of salt if you want to stick around this neighborhood.

May I suggest you browse around and enjoy the company of considerate friends.

Guest 77

Cassiline

Welcome to the board Bonovox. I hope you find the answers you are seeking and I am intrested in your thoughts as well.

C

When the pain of being where we are, becomes greater than our fear of letting go...we will risk and heal and grow.

Dawn

Hi Bonovox:

what is all this talk about revised stances on DF people? Id love some current info,

I hope this helps you out:

1981 Watchtower Sept 15th issue "If a Relative is Disfellowshipped"

DISFELLOWSHIPED RELATIVES NOT LIVING AT HOME
18 The second situation that we need to consider is that involving a disfellowshiped or disassociated relative who is not in the immediate family circle or living at one's home. Such a person is still related by blood or marriage, and so there may be some limited need to care for necessary family matters. Nonetheless, it is not as if he were living in the same home where contact and conversation could not be avoided. We should keep clearly in mind the Bible's inspired direction: "Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person . . . , not even eating with such a man."-1 Cor. 5:11.
19 Consequently, Christians related to such a disfellowshiped person living outside the home should strive to avoid needless association, even keeping business dealings to a minimum.

The truth is - it really depends on the congregation your parents are in - how it's viewed there. I hear a lot of stories from some people on the board here whose parents have completely shunned them - yet my parents continued to treat me as family - they just didn't talk about "spiritual" matters.

bonovox

er...damn Dawn, I was 2 years away from baptism in '81!! LOL...

Im having a hard time believing there hasnt been anything more current, like within the last 2 years??

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dungbeetle

some good catching up can be had from Kent's site, there the whole elder's book can be had (hehehe) and also the audio from the elder's school (more hehehe)and also the 'Organized' book.

Eventually when I have time, I will send the Pioneer's book, (shining as illuminator's) the 'organization' book, the 'Lamp" book and probably the 'Defending and Legally establishing the good news," if Kent is still interested. That last is especailaly a real hoot and holler.

Yep, you're supposed to ditch Christian-minded/living disfellowshiped relatives in exchange for good-standing pedophiles. <choke> <gag>

sorry, bono, didn't intend to rant on your thread earlier.

there really are a lot of good JW's here, they are trying to change things, I have a feeling tho that the governmetn is going to have to step in and put these Brooklyn CRIMINALS in jail. Whether or not that ever happens, that's my belief and there is a growing movement toward that end. (Not on this board).

In the meantime, this is a M.A.S.H. Unit, incoming wounded every day. People in terrible pain can be a little sensitive, a little quick to anger, and so on. There are times when I am one of those I suppose. As teh best and the brightest leave the Watchtower in ever-increasing, near-hemorhage numbers, things around JW.COM will only get more and more interesting.

Welcome to the board.

BEFORE YOU TRY AND REMOVE THE STICK FROM MY ARSE, REMOVE THE TELEPHONE POLE FROM YOUR OWN ARSE.

bonovox

Um. Dung buddy I think youre intentions are probably honorable, but I have to tell ya that Ive read all those books with the exception of the elder's book. I was a pioneer for 2 years, I also had access to the Defending and Legally Establishing book...in addition my step-dad, a great guy, was an elder for most of the 5 years I lived with him and my mom (the fanatical one) so while I never read the elder's book, I got to know a bit about what went on...plus Ive been in about a zillion committee meetings (i was a bad boy frequently) so I know the dealio...

but thanks anyways! :)

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